SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

doug diddles the D

Créé par: Armstrongs_burner
Équipe: 2023-24 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2023
Publié: 5 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Bolduc, Samuel
  2. Romanov, Alexander
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Krug, Torey (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (STL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Lou is senile and might say yes idk, krug isn't awful on the PP and might actually be able to help. I know eating 3 mil isn't ideal but its worth it to get rid of little man
2.
CGY
  1. Leddy, Nick
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de NYR
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
2025
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
2026
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
Logo de STL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $78 681 429 $20 000 $0 $4 818 571 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
8 125 000 $8 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
835 833 $835 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 571 429 $3 571 429 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
816 667 $816 667 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
775 000 $775 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
5 août 2023 à 12 h 4
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2023
Messages: 580
Mentions "j'aime": 169
Calgary trade is absolutely horrendous
5 août 2023 à 12 h 6
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 3,455
Mentions "j'aime": 1,624
Isles say no, will keep Romanov and Bolduc.
Nightowl26 a aimé ceci.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 25
#3
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Warrior24
Isles say no, will keep Romanov and Bolduc.


It would be a good trade for the isles . Krug at 3.5 mill and a 1st and a 2nd for a non playoff team would be hard to pass up
5 août 2023 à 12 h 28
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 3,455
Mentions "j'aime": 1,624
Quoting: Db1899
It would be a good trade for the isles . Krug at 3.5 mill and a 1st and a 2nd for a non playoff team would be hard to pass up


Krug is 32 and will be in decline while Romanov and Bolduc are 23 and 22 and improving. Draft picks are not going to help the team for another 4-5 years if you hit a good player, while Romanov is a sure Top-4 and Bolduc is at worst will be a 3 LD and PP2 QB. This would be a bad trade now, and a terrible trade looking back in 4-5 years.
Nightowl26 a aimé ceci.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 31
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Warrior24
Krug is 32 and will be in decline while Romanov and Bolduc are 23 and 22 and improving. Draft picks are not going to help the team for another 4-5 years if you hit a good player, while Romanov is a sure Top-4 and Bolduc is at worst will be a 3 LD and PP2 QB. This would be a bad trade now, and a terrible trade looking back in 4-5 years.


Krug is better than both Romanov and bolduc combined right now. He’s an above average puck moving 2nd pair D. At 3.5 mill there’s very little risk.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 36
#6
Nightowl26
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2021
Messages: 1,545
Mentions "j'aime": 453
Quoting: Db1899
Krug is better than both Romanov and bolduc combined right now. He’s an above average puck moving 2nd pair D. At 3.5 mill there’s very little risk.


It's such a bad trade, even Lou isn't that stupid.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 38
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Nightowl26
It's such a bad trade, even Lou isn't that stupid.


What makes it a bad trade? The isles are getting a 1st and a 2nd back along with the best player in the trade with retained salary.

There is no logic that supports this being a bad trade
5 août 2023 à 12 h 45
#8
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 3,455
Mentions "j'aime": 1,624
Quoting: Db1899
Krug is better than both Romanov and bolduc combined right now. He’s an above average puck moving 2nd pair D. At 3.5 mill there’s very little risk.


Romanov is already comparable to Krug. At even strength Krug had 18 points last year with an offensive start rate of 79%, while Romanov had 21 points despite only a 39% offensive start rate. Romanov is better defensively and already showing a good transition game. You do not like Romanov and look to trade him all the time but he is a legit 2nd pair D already and continuing to improve.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 47
#9
Démarrer sujet
STL Blues GM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2022
Messages: 569
Mentions "j'aime": 87
Quoting: Nightowl26
It's such a bad trade, even Lou isn't that stupid.


yeah its a bad trade but if you look at the name of the roster you could probably get the idea that its not that serious. and yeah lou is that dumb, he's a dinosaur.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 48
#10
Nightowl26
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2021
Messages: 1,545
Mentions "j'aime": 453
Quoting: Db1899
What makes it a bad trade? The isles are getting a 1st and a 2nd back along with the best player in the trade with retained salary.

There is no logic that supports this being a bad trade


Logic is they are trading 2 young defensemen 23 and 22 - Romonov is a Top 4 guy for us who started off real rough but second half played much before before getting hurt. He's a physical defensemen who I think gets better. Boduc is 22 - 6'4 over 200 lbs. that has a real nice shot and is developing real nice as an offensive defenseman. You saw how he improved at Bridgeport last year before they brought him up. Too much upside for me to move him and love his size.

For a 32 yr old 5'9 guy with a injury issues and has 4 years remaining. The 1st rounder will be a mid to late rounder and the 2nd from Toronto will be a bottom 5 pick. We traded just a year ago the 13th for Romonov. Trade does not make sense.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 50
#11
Démarrer sujet
STL Blues GM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2022
Messages: 569
Mentions "j'aime": 87
Quoting: Erbas1915
Calgary trade is absolutely horrendous


hey man we've seen worse, blues picked up Kevin hayes for a 6th rounder. yeah its probably a bad trade but dougs just diddling the D, not that deep brother
Erbas1915 a aimé ceci.
5 août 2023 à 12 h 51
#12
Démarrer sujet
STL Blues GM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2022
Messages: 569
Mentions "j'aime": 87
Quoting: Nightowl26
Logic is they are trading 2 young defensemen 23 and 22 - Romonov is a Top 4 guy for us who started off real rough but second half played much before before getting hurt. He's a physical defensemen who I think gets better. Boduc is 22 - 6'4 over 200 lbs. that has a real nice shot and is developing real nice as an offensive defenseman. You saw how he improved at Bridgeport last year before they brought him up. Too much upside for me to move him and love his size.

For a 32 yr old 5'9 guy with a injury issues and have 4 years remaining. The 1st rounder will be a mid to late rounder and the 2nd from Toronto will be a bottom 5 pick. We traded just a year ago the 13th for Romonov. Trade does not make sense.


I wanna see you find any good trades for krug, there are none, I'm just messing around while bored at work
5 août 2023 à 12 h 54
#13
Nightowl26
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2021
Messages: 1,545
Mentions "j'aime": 453
Quoting: Jpool360
I wanna see you find any good trades for krug, there are none, I'm just messing around while bored at work


I don't see a good trade for Krug....St Louis will need to pay a team to take him and that contract off their hands.....Isles are not the ones, that's for sure.
He has 4 years left at 6.5M! .St.louis will need to give up a 1st and take nothing back in my opinion. Remember, not only is he 32, has 4 yrs at 6.5M left, but he has injury issues. NO ONE is taking him
5 août 2023 à 13 h 1
#14
Démarrer sujet
STL Blues GM
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: déc. 2022
Messages: 569
Mentions "j'aime": 87
Quoting: Nightowl26
I don't see a good trade for Krug....St Louis will need to pay a team to take him and that contract off their hands.....Isles are not the ones, that's for sure.
He has 4 years left at 6.5M! .St.louis will need to give up a 1st and take nothing back in my opinion. Remember, not only is he 32, has 4 yrs at 6.5M left, but he has injury issues. NO ONE is taking him


yeah I know, but let us dream, I still stand by the fact that lou might accept that trade because he has rocks in his brain and is literally 80
5 août 2023 à 13 h 21
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Warrior24
Romanov is already comparable to Krug. At even strength Krug had 18 points last year with an offensive start rate of 79%, while Romanov had 21 points despite only a 39% offensive start rate. Romanov is better defensively and already showing a good transition game. You do not like Romanov and look to trade him all the time but he is a legit 2nd pair D already and continuing to improve.


Romanov is not comparable to krug. It’s disengenious to leave out that Romanov played 350 more min at 5v5 than Krugs.

Romanov is below average defensively at 5v5 and I don’t know where your coming up with him being good in transition because Romanov ranked as one of the worst transition D in the nhl last season.

I liked the Romanov trade when it happened but he’s better suited for a 3rd pair role. He doesn’t do anything at an above average level at 5v5 besides hitting people
5 août 2023 à 13 h 24
#16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Nightowl26
Logic is they are trading 2 young defensemen 23 and 22 - Romonov is a Top 4 guy for us who started off real rough but second half played much before before getting hurt. He's a physical defensemen who I think gets better. Boduc is 22 - 6'4 over 200 lbs. that has a real nice shot and is developing real nice as an offensive defenseman. You saw how he improved at Bridgeport last year before they brought him up. Too much upside for me to move him and love his size.

For a 32 yr old 5'9 guy with a injury issues and has 4 years remaining. The 1st rounder will be a mid to late rounder and the 2nd from Toronto will be a bottom 5 pick. We traded just a year ago the 13th for Romonov. Trade does not make sense.


Size does not equal impact.

Romanov is young but hasn’t shown he has the ability to be a top 4 D. I like him as a physical 3rd pair pk D but he doesn’t have the hockey IQ/skillset to be a top 4 guy.

The issue is a lot of fans on here love Romanovs work ethic/hitting and it clouds their judgement on the actual impact Romanov is providing
5 août 2023 à 13 h 29
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Warrior24
Krug is 32 and will be in decline while Romanov and Bolduc are 23 and 22 and improving. Draft picks are not going to help the team for another 4-5 years if you hit a good player, while Romanov is a sure Top-4 and Bolduc is at worst will be a 3 LD and PP2 QB. This would be a bad trade now, and a terrible trade looking back in 4-5 years.


Quoting: Warrior24
Romanov is already comparable to Krug. At even strength Krug had 18 points last year with an offensive start rate of 79%, while Romanov had 21 points despite only a 39% offensive start rate. Romanov is better defensively and already showing a good transition game. You do not like Romanov and look to trade him all the time but he is a legit 2nd pair D already and continuing to improve.


Quoting: Nightowl26
Logic is they are trading 2 young defensemen 23 and 22 - Romonov is a Top 4 guy for us who started off real rough but second half played much before before getting hurt. He's a physical defensemen who I think gets better. Boduc is 22 - 6'4 over 200 lbs. that has a real nice shot and is developing real nice as an offensive defenseman. You saw how he improved at Bridgeport last year before they brought him up. Too much upside for me to move him and love his size.

For a 32 yr old 5'9 guy with a injury issues and has 4 years remaining. The 1st rounder will be a mid to late rounder and the 2nd from Toronto will be a bottom 5 pick. We traded just a year ago the 13th for Romonov. Trade does not make sense.


What does Romanov do that makes him a top 4 D? He struggled the entire season at basic plays both offensively and defensively

<a href=IMG-8952">
5 août 2023 à 13 h 49
#18
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 3,455
Mentions "j'aime": 1,624
Quoting: Db1899
Romanov is not comparable to krug. It’s disengenious to leave out that Romanov played 350 more min at 5v5 than Krugs.

Romanov is below average defensively at 5v5 and I don’t know where your coming up with him being good in transition because Romanov ranked as one of the worst transition D in the nhl last season.

I liked the Romanov trade when it happened but he’s better suited for a 3rd pair role. He doesn’t do anything at an above average level at 5v5 besides hitting people


It's not disingenuous to not have mentioned the minutes played at that would show that Romanov had to play tougher minutes than Krug as he is deployed in defensive situations at basically a 2x rate and still put up more points as even strength.
Nightowl26 a aimé ceci.
5 août 2023 à 13 h 51
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Warrior24
It's not disingenuous to not have mentioned the minutes played at that would show that Romanov had to play tougher minutes than Krug as he is deployed in defensive situations at basically a 2x rate and still put up more points as even strength.


Romanov didn’t play in ver tough situations. His deployment was about average. Zone starts don’t affect points either, that’s been proven for a long time.

Most of Krugs/Romanovs zone starts are on the fly anyways.
5 août 2023 à 13 h 55
#20
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Warrior24
It's not disingenuous to not have mentioned the minutes played at that would show that Romanov had to play tougher minutes than Krug as he is deployed in defensive situations at basically a 2x rate and still put up more points as even strength.



70% of Romanovs shifts were on the fly. That is not tough deployment. Pelech on the other hand…

<a href=IMG-8953">
5 août 2023 à 13 h 58
#21
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2021
Messages: 15,040
Mentions "j'aime": 12,102
Quoting: Db1899
Romanov didn’t play in ver tough situations. His deployment was about average. Zone starts don’t affect points either, that’s been proven for a long time.

Most of Krugs/Romanovs zone starts are on the fly anyways.


Quoting: Warrior24
It's not disingenuous to not have mentioned the minutes played at that would show that Romanov had to play tougher minutes than Krug as he is deployed in defensive situations at basically a 2x rate and still put up more points as even strength.


This is regular season. Point still stands

<a href=IMG-8954">
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage