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three way trade second try

Créé par: pretzelcoatl
Équipe: 2023-24 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2023
Publié: 3 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Ullmark, Linus (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Calgary retains, not Boston
BOS
2.
CGY
  1. Clarke, Graeme
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Calgary retains 50% of Ullmark's cap hit

If the conditions are met to send NJD's 1st to SJS, CGY instead receives the following picks:
2024 2nd (NJD)
2025 1st (NJD)
2025 1st (BOS)
3.
4.
NJD
    For the record I think this is too much for the Devils to give up for Ullmark
    BOS
    Rachats de contrats
    Frais appliqués
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    2024
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    2025
    Logo de NJD
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    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    2026
    Logo de NJD
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2383 500 000 $81 224 167 $422 500 $2 175 000 $2 275 833 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    863 333 $863 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Bruins de Boston
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance925 000 $$925K)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    DG/DD, AG
    UFA - 1

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    3 août 2023 à 16 h 50
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    Hart surely won’t get less since Brière said he will not trade him. If you want him, you have to pay his price. Same thing with Ullmark. You want him, pay for him


    Exactly, so hart will stay with the Flyers. Saying I want 2 1sts for a goalie who hasn't been all that good, is basically saying he not for sale.
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 3
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    These are completely incomparable scenarios. The Flyers are starting a rebuild, whereas the Bruins are at the end of their window and need cap space


    Do they really need space? They are complete for now
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 4
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    Quoting: Shaun80
    Exactly, so hart will stay with the Flyers. Saying I want 2 1sts for a goalie who hasn't been all that good, is basically saying he not for sale.


    So Ullmark will stay in Boston unless you offer them something they want
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 20
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    So Ullmark will stay in Boston unless you offer them something they want


    He did, a top center.
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 42
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    Quoting: Shaun80
    He did, a top center.

    But Calgary don’t do that
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 45
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    But Calgary don’t do that


    Which brings us full circle. The team that has to add here is the Bruins, because they are the ones bringing in the top asset, and centers bring back larger returns than goalies.
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 47
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    Which brings us full circle. The team that has to add here is the Bruins, because they are the ones bringing in the top asset, and centers bring back larger returns than goalies.


    And Boston don’t add. Ullmark and a first is already enough value for Lindholm. New Jersey is the team to add. Or remove the retention, which make the deal a little closer to fair. A perfect deal would be either


    To Calgary : NJ first, Boston first, Casey, third
    To NJ : Ullmark 50% retained
    To Boston : Lindholm

    Or

    To Calgary : NJ first, Boston first, Clarke, Boston third, Stillman
    To Boston : Lindholm, Vladar
    To NJ : Ullmark no retention
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 48
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    And Boston don’t add. Ullmark and a first is already enough value for Lindholm. New Jersey is the team to add. Or remove the retention, which make the deal a little closer to fair.


    I think the retention isn't as big a deal as you're making it seem, but I digress. Let's say we remove retention. How do you make the cap work? If Calgary is selling their UFAs, they'll be the ones with the cap space.
    3 août 2023 à 17 h 54
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    I think the retention isn't as big a deal as you're making it seem, but I digress. Let's say we remove retention. How do you make the cap work? If Calgary is selling their UFAs, they'll be the ones with the cap space.


    Calgary shouldn’t be the one worrying about New Jersey’s cap. Haula can be trade to make the cap work or something like that
    3 août 2023 à 18 h 15
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    Calgary shouldn’t be the one worrying about New Jersey’s cap. Haula can be trade to make the cap work or something like that


    Haula has an NMC, so does Palat. Nobody else with a large cap hit is expendable except maybe Vanecek.

    If your sticking point is the retention that's fine, but I really don't think it's that big a deal if Calgary is rebuilding.
    3 août 2023 à 19 h 0
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    Quoting: pretzelcoatl
    Haula has an NMC, so does Palat. Nobody else with a large cap hit is expendable except maybe Vanecek.

    If your sticking point is the retention that's fine, but I really don't think it's that big a deal if Calgary is rebuilding.

    Calgary won’t really want to retain 2,5m for 2 years w/o compensation
     
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