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Yzermans Vision for Modern Team Building

Équipe: 2025-26 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2023
Publié: 31 juill. 2023
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The following players, I believe, are the "nucleus" of players that Yzerman views as the team's core.

TBD = To be determined, could be a player already in the organization or acquired down the road.

The conventional approach to team formation is evolving. A prevailing assumption is that the 1st line gets the most playing time, followed by the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th lines, with the last two predominantly serving physical roles, often at the expense of skill, especially on the 4th line. However, this model is outdated. The future, according to Yzerman, consists of four consistent lines, all equally laden with elite talent, reflecting a shift in team-building strategy.

In actualizing his vision, Yzerman has diverged strategically from traditional methods, meticulously selecting players for all four lines, focusing not just on their physical attributes but also their unique skills and capabilities. The drafting of players like Kasper and Danielsson perfectly encapsulates this strategy. The notion of using a top-10 pick on a "future 3rd-line center" has often been criticized, as the position has been historically associated with mediocrity and underachievement. However, Yzerman's vision redefines these roles. Imagine having three forward lines each boasting an elite two-way center, paired with size or skill according to the game's dynamics. Such a configuration presents a formidable challenge for any opposing team to match up against.
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31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 7
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Looks mostly correct to me.

I would include Soder and/or Berg in there as well, at the moment. However I could easily see one of them being moved for the right piece in the future (Ras included).
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 10
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Looks mostly correct to me.

I would include Soder and/or Berg in there as well, at the moment. However I could easily see one of them being moved for the right piece in the future (Ras included).


I would assume most of the TBD positions would be filled from internally, but I agree, I don't think they're viewed as "core players." I think Rasmussen carries a lot more than just his on-ice contributions, which were huge last year.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 10
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Well, when you take out th fact that we need two top-6 wingers, then this team looks pretty damn good!

I think we see Mazur make a strong argument to be one of those guys.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 12
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Well, when you take out th fact that we need two top-6 wingers, then this team looks pretty damn good!

I think we see Mazur make a strong argument to be one of those guys.


I'm not saying we don't have those top-6 capable wingers in our system already, just that these players are the core nucleus that is being built around.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 16
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I would assume most of the TBD positions would be filled from internally, but I agree, I don't think they're viewed as "core players." I think Rasmussen carries a lot more than just his on-ice contributions, which were huge last year.


I think it's pretty much a certainty that most will not be filled internally. Especially the two top 6 wingers. Eventually Yzerman will have to make a UFA splash.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 24
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In reality, this seems very lame considering; years spent on filling cupboard, tons of picks, Yzermans motto of over seasoning kids. This seems very bare compared to BUF for example.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 35
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In reality, this seems very lame considering; years spent on filling cupboard, tons of picks, Yzermans motto of over seasoning kids. This seems very bare compared to BUF for example.


Are you braindead? Yzerman has been the GM for only 4 years and was left with absolutely nothing to work with by Holland.

BUF has been a far worse team for a much longer period of time, and traded away their franchise center for Tuch and 2 valuable picks.

In only 4 years Yzerman has:
1. Drafted a franchise DMan
2. Traded for a core piece, 40 goal scoring winger
3. Traded for another 1st round winger
4. Drafted two promising C and three promising D prospects
5. Drafted a potential franchise goalie

Try again.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 41
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I'm not saying we don't have those top-6 capable wingers in our system already, just that these players are the core nucleus that is being built around.


Certainly.
I'd swap Edvinsson and Wallinder, though. Although, a pure defense 1st pairing and a pure offense 2nd pairing would be fun.
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 51
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Are you braindead? Yzerman has been the GM for only 4 years and was left with absolutely nothing to work with by Holland.
BUF has been a far worse team for a much longer period of time, and traded away their franchise center for Tuch and 2 valuable picks.
In only 4 years Yzerman has:
1. Drafted a franchise DMan
2. Traded for a core piece, 40 goal scoring winger
3. Traded for another 1st round winger
4. Drafted two promising C and three promising D prospects
5. Drafted a potential franchise goalie
Try again.


Yikes, a little harsh. If you actually look at other teams, you'll see they have gathered the same assets, with fuller cupboards. You can't guarantee your kids either. It's usually a 7yr plan to contention, that's all...
31 juill. 2023 à 14 h 53
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Yikes, a little harsh. If you actually look at other teams, you'll see they have gathered the same assets, with fuller cupboards. You can't guarantee your kids either. It's usually a 7yr plan to contention, that's all...


I'd ask you to give examples of these "other teams", but I am sure I'd be disappointed with your response.
31 juill. 2023 à 15 h 31
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Yikes, a little harsh. If you actually look at other teams, you'll see they have gathered the same assets, with fuller cupboards. You can't guarantee your kids either. It's usually a 7yr plan to contention, that's all...


Please reference this thread to put into perspective the abysmal team he had to work with only 4 short years ago: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/743143
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Reasoning for Compher being in there? Not saying your wrong but I feel he was brought in more for a mentoring role as opposed to being a core guy
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Reasoning for Compher being in there? Not saying your wrong but I feel he was brought in more for a mentoring role as opposed to being a core guy


Signed long-term and I don't think Yzerman would bring on a guy with that much term that he doesn't feel can have a contributing role on the core of this team. Every team needs a veteran presence with experience winning the cup, and Compher provides that.
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