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Créé par: MBH
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 3 juill. 2023
Publié: 3 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
EK65 to the Pens will be tough. This would all be predicated on Chicago (who have no defense to speak of) becoming sufficiently attractive because of Bedard for Petry to waive his NTC. Throw in DeSmith because CHI's goaltending is also weak.

Highly unlikely either of these trades would be accepted, but it's about the only way it could possibly work for the Pens.
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Karlsson, Erik (3 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Poulin, Samuel
  3. Smith, Ty [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CHI)
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2026 (CHI)
CHI
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Petry, Jeff (1 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de CHI
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2026
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de CHI
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $79 441 667 $0 $0 $4 058 333 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 2
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That’s the first Karlsson trade I’ve seen from a Pens fan that isn’t bad for SJ.
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3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 5
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Quoting: AlbertaRockies
That’s the first Karlsson trade I’ve seen from a Pens fan that isn’t bad for SJ.


Too many thinking SJ would take on both Petry and Granlund's contracts. No chance.

Petry would fill a need on a weak blueline on SJ, but I don't think he'd agree to go there

Granlund doesn't do anything for SJ down the middle

Petterson becomes the obvious contract to move, and PIT would be selling high on him. As much as he was great last year you can't get a guy like Karlsson without giving up something you like
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3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 11
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Giving up prime draft picks and young prospects is not the best idea considering the age of the foundational players on this roster.
3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 14
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Giving up prime draft picks and young prospects is not the best idea considering the age of the foundational players on this roster.


They have 2 maybe 3 years to make a run tops. No matter what happens they are going to be god awful after that. Losing 3 picks over three years is not the end of the world. Poulin as a prospect is a work in progress and could likely benefit from a change of scenery. Smith doesn't have a place in the Pens lineup at the moment, so better to move him on for something that can be used now
3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 18
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They have 2 maybe 3 years to make a run tops. No matter what happens they are going to be god awful after that. Losing 3 picks over three years is not the end of the world. Poulin as a prospect is a work in progress and could likely benefit from a change of scenery. Smith doesn't have a place in the Pens lineup at the moment, so better to move him on for something that can be used now


If PIT trades 1sts, 2nds and prospects to get EK65, the cupboards will be empty in 2-3 years when Sid and Malkins deals are up and this team will plummet from the sky without many gems left in the system
3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 24
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If PIT trades 1sts, 2nds and prospects to get EK65, the cupboards will be empty in 2-3 years when Sid and Malkins deals are up and this team will plummet from the sky without many gems left in the system


They know that. That's the whole point. Load up now for one last dance. When you're in win-now mode for 17 years there's nothing in the cupboard. Might as well be god awful for a few years and cash in on some high picks. Last time it worked out pretty great wink
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3 juill. 2023 à 23 h 35
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I'd much rather keep Pettersson, not get EK and pay to move Rutta/Granlund and one of the backup goalies. That opens the space to add to the third line. The top 4 you have listed is not great. Karlsson plays 0 defense, letang plays only slightly more.
4 juill. 2023 à 0 h 54
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I'd much rather keep Pettersson, not get EK and pay to move Rutta/Granlund and one of the backup goalies. That opens the space to add to the third line. The top 4 you have listed is not great. Karlsson plays 0 defense, letang plays only slightly more.


The point of this was just to illustrate how it could potentially work since its being rumoured. Petterson is a fine player, but given the scenario, he's the most likely guy to go out. I'm not sure there's much potential for Granlund to be moved tbh. And Ruuta's a decent d-man on a decent contract. Pens fans seem to be pretty down on him, but that never made sense to me. He was perfectly serviceable for them. Key is to limit his minutes. Move him out and who comes into the d corps? Will Butcher???

Defensively, they take a hit for sure. But at least it would be entertaining to watch!
4 juill. 2023 à 1 h 5
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Quoting: MBH
The point of this was just to illustrate how it could potentially work since its being rumoured. Petterson is a fine player, but given the scenario, he's the most likely guy to go out. I'm not sure there's much potential for Granlund to be moved tbh. And Ruuta's a decent d-man on a decent contract. Pens fans seem to be pretty down on him, but that never made sense to me. He was perfectly serviceable for them. Key is to limit his minutes. Move him out and who comes into the d corps? Will Butcher???

Defensively, they take a hit for sure. But at least it would be entertaining to watch!



I don't disagree with you on Rutta, I do think he's serviceable and a well suited player, but his role is 3rd pair.

Team would be much better to focus on bottom six additions as they stand currently imo. I also do believe you can move Granlund, it will just cost.
 
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