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Créé par: TunaXD
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 26 juin 2023
Publié: 26 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I saw a Leafs ACGM with a Miller for Nylander one for one. Canucks fans in the comment were saying that they should not do this deal, but I think that is a steal for Vancouver. The conversation had me curious if it was possible to build a competitive team without Miller as the 2C, this is what I came up with. Keep in mind that the cap dump trades can be any team, and the UFA salaries may be a little cheaper or more expensive. Bear should return by January next year, and he would then replace Myers in the lineup.

Canucks draft Benson if he is available. If he is gone, take the best player that falls. If not, take SImashev.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
2850 000 $
2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
33 500 000 $
35 000 000 $
44 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
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  1. Anderson, Joey
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
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VAN
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 542 783 $850 000 $850 000 $3 957 217 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3

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27 juin 2023 à 20 h 32
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Quoting: Savage27
Miller is idiotically used as a scapegoat by stupid reporters and know it all fans in van. There is like 6 guys who they could’ve been calling for the heads of before him.

Brian Burke said in his book that fans in Canada and van especially turn on players as soon as they get paid. It’s facts for miller


I believe that JT is an absolutely phenomenal hockey player and the Canucks are lucky to have him. That being said, given the fact that it looks as though Miller is already starting his decline before his deal even starts, he is bound to face a certain backlash from fans.
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27 juin 2023 à 20 h 35
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If Nylander is asking for less than 9, he's definitely signed. In Toronto, I could see him ask for anywhere between 9-11M, I don't think he goes much less in Vancouver but if Pettersen is getting 10M, maybe he goes for 9M.

If the Leafs just do this to make a change, I don't think the results will be favourable, not in the short term, nor in the long-term.


My argument would be that Nylander should be valued at at least 2 million below Pettersson. I believe that an 8.5 x 8 deal is what he deserves based on his career up to this point. He is definitely a comparable to Timo Meier in my mind. This deal would be a panic move from Treliving in hopes of shaking up the core while still being a top team in a competitive division.
27 juin 2023 à 21 h 44
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My argument would be that Nylander should be valued at at least 2 million below Pettersson. I believe that an 8.5 x 8 deal is what he deserves based on his career up to this point. He is definitely a comparable to Timo Meier in my mind. This deal would be a panic move from Treliving in hopes of shaking up the core while still being a top team in a competitive division.


I think objectively, Nylander is better than Meier, but what's more important is that Nylander probably thinks he is better. Nylander has some comparables that are making ~8M like Fiala and Forsberg one is playing in a tax free state though. I think it's more important that Nylander probably thinks he is better than Meier, and there's also the fact that Meier would have wanted 9M+ to stay in SJ and is willing to take less guessing around 8.5M to be on a contender. While Vancouver is no SJ, they have failed to make thr playoffs for a couple of years now despite looking pretty good on paper, I don't see why Nylander would want to take less to play there. In Toronto, he's going to compare himself to guys who are making 11M+, so if Petterson decides not to ask for more than 10.5M, I think Nylander would view that as a Petey problem. Nylander is a second gen NHLer, what might satisfy Petey might not satisfy him. Pettersson could demand 12Mx8 and probably get it.

I don't think Toronto remains a top team in their division for long if they trade Nylander for Miller. The idea of the Leafs core needing a shakeup by trading one of Matthews, Marner, or Nylander doesn't make much sense to me. Firstly, because they likely don't get better/lose the trade and I think Treliving knows that (the plan is to re-sign Matthews and Nylander). Secondly, if the point of the shakeup is to scare or shock the other core players, well, Matthews is a year away from FA, and Marner is two and both their NMCs kick in. Tavares is in the same boat. Rielly has term but also has trade protection. The rest of the team is mostly fairly new anyways. In other words, it would be pointless. They should only make moves if they improve the team or if they can't afford a guy.

To summarize, if this was a panic move from Treliving, it would be related to contract negotiations.
 
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