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Massive Deal

Créé par: Phils_89
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 15 juin 2023
Publié: 15 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
24 000 000 $
21 750 000 $
21 750 000 $
Transactions
NSH
  1. Bokk, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Jarvis, Seth
  3. Pelevin, Alexander [Liste de réserve]
  4. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  5. Rees, Jamieson
  6. Suzuki, Ryan
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  8. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  9. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  10. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CAR)
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 500 000 $78 642 750 $450 000 $32 500 $4 857 250 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Predators de Nashville
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
862 500 $862 500 $ (Bonis de performance12 500 $$12K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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15 juin 2023 à 20 h 52
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That feels like a lot of quantity without much quality
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15 juin 2023 à 20 h 54
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My brain isn't braining.

I think a Forsberg trade would have to include Jarvis/Necas, which I'm not sure the Canes really want to do.
I also don't think Saros is a fit for Carolina.
15 juin 2023 à 20 h 55
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That offer doesn't even get you Saros. Only things of vaalue here are Jarvis and the 1st. This is what was reported about Saros a week ago.

[Michael Gallagher] After speaking with a couple different sources, it’s believed it will take a package of at least two first-round picks plus 2-3 blue-chip prospects to even get the conversation started about a Juuse Saros trade.

Canes only ''blue-chip'' prospects are Nikishin and Morrow.
15 juin 2023 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Ennis
My brain isn't braining.

I think a Forsberg trade would have to include Jarvis/Necas, which I'm not sure the Canes really want to do.
I also don't think Saros is a fit for Carolina.


No, he isn't fit unless Tortz decides to sell low.
Nashville doesn't have anything the Hurricanes need that they can't get for a much better value elsewhere
15 juin 2023 à 20 h 57
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No, he isn't fit unless Tortz decides to sell low.
Nashville doesn't have anything the Hurricanes need that they can't get for a much better value elsewhere


A scoring winger..? The Canes don't need a scoring winger?
15 juin 2023 à 20 h 58
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Quoting: Bloodraven
That offer doesn't even get you Saros. Only things of vaalue here are Jarvis and the 1st. This is what was reported about Saros a week ago.

[Michael Gallagher] After speaking with a couple different sources, it’s believed it will take a package of at least two first-round picks plus 2-3 blue-chip prospects to even get the conversation started about a Juuse Saros trade.


That trade package is ridiculous considering how notoriously flukey the goaltending position is
15 juin 2023 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: Ennis
A scoring winger..? The Canes don't need a scoring winger?


They do but Forsberg is a very inconsistent scoring threat from year to year, his contract is a little too much for my liking, he's injury prone (at least that's how it reads from the number of games he's played in the last few seasons), he would cost a whole lot more than DeBrincat and probably more than Keller
15 juin 2023 à 21 h 4
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That return for Forsberg and Saros is less inspired than whoever designs CAR's bland jerseys.
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15 juin 2023 à 21 h 4
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Quoting: seanrushton
They do but Forsberg is a very inconsistent scoring threat from year to year, his contract is a little too much for my liking, he would cost a whole lot more than DeBrincat and probably more than Keller


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He would likely cost the same as Cat, A 1st+ and a blue chip prospect. Cat had a down year but him being younger holds the value close.
Keller has been stellar the past few seasons and is younger, so he'd cost at least two firsts+.

Maybe Carolina isn't interested on spending that amount for Forsberg but it's no doubt he'd be a fit.
15 juin 2023 à 21 h 8
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Quoting: Ennis
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He would likely cost the same as Cat, A 1st+ and a blue chip prospect. Cat had a down year but him being younger holds the value close.
Keller has been stellar the past few seasons and is younger, so he'd cost at least two firsts+.

Maybe Carolina isn't interested on spending that amount for Forsberg but it's no doubt he'd be a fit.



I mean your right... except for the defensive metric he looks like he'd be a good fit in Carolina. I can see something along the line of
pick any prospect (not named Morrow or Nikishin), 2023 Carolina's 1st, 2x 2024 2nds being a baseline for a deal
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15 juin 2023 à 21 h 11
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I mean your right... except for the defensive metric he looks like he'd be a good fit in Carolina. I can see something along the line of
pick any prospect (not named Morrow or Nikishin), 2023 Carolina's 1st, 2x 2024 2nds being a baseline for a deal


His D metrics weren't so good this year. Nashville had a down year due to us selling plus he was battling an injury. But if you look in prior years he's been great.

I think a Forsberg trade would have to include one of Morrow or Nikishin, which is why I don't think it'd work because the Canes are definitely not interested in moving those pieces.
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15 juin 2023 à 21 h 12
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His D metrics weren't so good this year. Nashville had a down year due to us selling plus he was battling an injury. But if you look in prior years he's been great.

I think a Forsberg trade would have to include one of Morrow or Nikishin, which is why I don't think it'd work because the Canes are definitely not interested in moving those pieces.


Exactly... I mean Gunler and Koivunen are good prospects but I just don't see them being enough to get Forsberg. If both sides are willing to agree to a less prestigious prospect but more picks then that might be enough to get a deal done
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15 juin 2023 à 21 h 12
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I mean your right... except for the defensive metric he looks like he'd be a good fit in Carolina. I can see something along the line of
pick any prospect (not named Morrow or Nikishin), 2023 Carolina's 1st, 2x 2024 2nds being a baseline for a deal


Are we still talking about Forsberg AND Saros, or just Forsberg here?
15 juin 2023 à 21 h 13
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Are we still talking about Forsberg AND Saros, or just Forsberg here?


just Forsberg
15 juin 2023 à 21 h 15
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this is a pretty blah offer for those two, a lot of quantity, Jarvis the only quality. no need to do it from our perspective though
15 juin 2023 à 22 h 41
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Quoting: seanrushton
That trade package is ridiculous considering how notoriously flukey the goaltending position is


It is but that's what Barry Trotz is asking. But if a goalie is worth close to that haul it's Saros. Dude is amazing and plays a **** ton of games.
16 juin 2023 à 0 h 5
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Quoting: Bloodraven
It is but that's what Barry Trotz is asking. But if a goalie is worth close to that haul it's Saros. Dude is amazing and plays a **** ton of games.


He is but I'm still kind of hesitant to pay that package for a goalie
 
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