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Would mtl do this

Créé par: Howie
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2023
Publié: 29 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Dubois deal that is an actual middle ground that isn't dach but also isn't nothing like many fans believe he's worth
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WPG
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Mailloux, Logan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
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Is this a deal that mtl would consider? Doesn't trade any 2023 picks in a deep draft, remove a almost unmovable contract in Hoffman, 2 b prospect and a 1st that is completely unknown and not their own pick.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
  2. Gawanke, Leon [Droits de RFA]
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Ik the 2025 first is unideal but if Hellebuyck gets moved he likely gets a first (2023 or 2024) so sure we could have 3 firsts this year but spreading out the picks could pay off if we can squeeze more via prospects. 13th pick for helle could result in 2 top 18 picks in 2023 trade scheifele for a 2024 first and then we have 2 first for 4 years straight.
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31 mai 2023 à 1 h 29
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They actually wouldn't, this is equivalent to 2 1sts + a 2nd and cap offset. It's way more than the Sharks got for Meier and the Canucks got for Horvat. Take out Mailloux and add some more protection to the Flames pick incase it becomes an unprotected 2026 1st.


I'd be willing to change kidney to mysak and keep the deal the same
31 mai 2023 à 12 h 25
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I'd be willing to change kidney to mysak and keep the deal the same


Still not worth 2 1sts +. Mailloux whether you like him or not still has 1st round value. PLD is on an expiring contract, looking to get anywhere from 7-9 mil on his next deal, wants to test FA so will only sign a 1 year deal, is not a 1st line center, isn't better than Horvat or Meier and Montreal is too weak at RHD to consider Barron or Mailloux in a trade. For all these reasons he will not fetch 2 1st round picks + in value. I seriously doubt that we trade either Mailloux or Barron and Gawanke is an AHL lifer so really isn't going to replace the loss of either of our prospects.
31 mai 2023 à 13 h 46
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Still not worth 2 1sts +. Mailloux whether you like him or not still has 1st round value. PLD is on an expiring contract, looking to get anywhere from 7-9 mil on his next deal, wants to test FA so will only sign a 1 year deal, is not a 1st line center, isn't better than Horvat or Meier and Montreal is too weak at RHD to consider Barron or Mailloux in a trade. For all these reasons he will not fetch 2 1st round picks + in value. I seriously doubt that we trade either Mailloux or Barron and Gawanke is an AHL lifer so really isn't going to replace the loss of either of our prospects.


Mailloux is mot a 1st round pick in value anymore buddy. He can't even play in the NHL yet. He's worth about a mid second. If he's so valuable swap Mailloux with pick 37 since he's "worth more".

Kidney Calgary pick and pick 37 this year
31 mai 2023 à 15 h 8
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Mailloux is mot a 1st round pick in value anymore buddy. He can't even play in the NHL yet. He's worth about a mid second. If he's so valuable swap Mailloux with pick 37 since he's "worth more".

Kidney Calgary pick and pick 37 this year


If you don't like the comments stop trying to trade PLD to Montreal. We don't need to trade for PLD, we can simply wait and see who we take in the draft and revisit signing PLD next year when it costs us 0 assets.
31 mai 2023 à 18 h 55
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If you don't like the comments stop trying to trade PLD to Montreal. We don't need to trade for PLD, we can simply wait and see who we take in the draft and revisit signing PLD next year when it costs us 0 assets.


HAHAHA someone has changed their thoughts on Dubois. You were the one saying barron 37th Dvorak and kidney lol not me. If mtl passes so be it he'll go to another place and sign long tern to stick it to mtl for not showing them that they wanted him so much that they trade for him. Why would he sign in mtl as a fa if mtl has done nothing to help him want to be there. If I'm him in 2024 and he actually makes it to ufa I'm going "mtl you didn't want to get me when my contract would have been better for you now I'm asking 9.5m plus maybe 10m and if not someone else is going to pay it" if you don't need him why does every 2nd agm trade or sign him? He'll cost the most important asset being the major cap increase from a competitive ufa market and teams that are better fits with better tax situations beat you out and hope that he signs even for 9.5m😂😂😂
 
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