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Ship Guentzel best option for our future

Créé par: Pensman69
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 23 avr. 2023
Publié: 23 avr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
3900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
13 800 000 $
14 000 000 $
33 000 000 $
23 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
SEA
  1. Carter, Jeff (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Heinola, Ville
  2. Lucius, Chaz
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Guentzel, Jake
Détails additionnels:
7x$8.5m extended
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de WSH
Logo de FLA
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de VGK
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
2025
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Logo de PIT
Logo de WPG
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $71 178 924 $0 $425 000 $11 321 076 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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23 avr. 2023 à 19 h 19
#51
MisstheWhalers
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Quoting: Pensman69
I’ve made several and in fact just made another one with Toronto for a first, Robertson, Minten and Leafs fans were accepted of it. And that’s saying something considering that first of Toronto’s is late and they likely would add a 2nd/3rd to that deal.


Robertson and Minten are not A-prospects though.
23 avr. 2023 à 19 h 23
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Robertson and Minten are not A-prospects though.


Yes they are lol? They are A prospects at the very least. And Toronto is also probably one of the teams far back in the line that we would shop Guentzel for so we could get that deal of 2 A+ prospects from another team…
23 avr. 2023 à 20 h 13
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Yea as I said, smartest move for us to do would be to let him play another year or 2 with Sid and another skilled young winger to boost up his stats, then sell high and get the most back that we can.

Don’t think any teams would really overpay for that tho, $5.125m contract on its first year, coming off a down season, NMC for 3 years. That’s hard leverage for us. And with the flat cap to add onto all of that, a Rust trade is probably highly unlikely this off-season and I have no complaints about that. I like Rust and I like what he brings to the table for this Pens team, I don’t think we are in any position to where we need to make a move for him. He’s more than capable of having a bounce back year next year and then feeding off of that.


My only concern is his age, he will be 31 in May. Say he doesn't have a good year next yr, then we will be stuck with him until the end of his contract. No one will want a 32 yr with that contract after next yr. its a high risk/reward type situation, just one I'd rather see if I can deal with this yr. I just think now might be the time to do it but only for the right deal. Also, with the cap going up by at least 1 million, most likely more, that could help teams to take him. I also just saw that the cap could be 88 million in 2024/2025 season. That would be interesting.
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23 avr. 2023 à 20 h 40
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My only concern is his age, he will be 31 in May. Say he doesn't have a good year next yr, then we will be stuck with him until the end of his contract. No one will want a 32 yr with that contract after next yr. its a high risk/reward type situation, just one I'd rather see if I can deal with this yr. I just think now might be the time to do it but only for the right deal. Also, with the cap going up by at least 1 million, most likely more, that could help teams to take him. I also just saw that the cap could be 88 million in 2024/2025 season. That would be interesting.


Not necessarily, he’s a top 6 player he holds some value even if he has another mid year. Sure it may not be a lot but it would be an asset if anything.

Nah the cap going up just 1 will hurt his market more then help it. More teams will be cap strapped. Next year or 24-25 would be the ideal year most likely.
 
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