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Eat half and share

Créé par: tonyhzs
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2023
Publié: 7 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
EDM
  1. Karlsson, Erik (5 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Reimer, James
SJS
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Nurse, Darnell (4 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Edmonton gets out of a couple deals that will age badly, and by the time the EK contract is up, Nurse's few extra years at 4 million retained won't be terrible and will benefit the Sharks by contention time. Sharks play tbe long game, Edmonton plays tbe short game and gets cap flexibility.
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $78 749 833 $896 000 $1 700 000 $3 750 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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798 000 $798 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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450 000 $450 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 29
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this is interesting and weird.
lol but I'm not hating it TBH
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 32
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
this is interesting and weird.
lol but I'm not hating it TBH


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyyQOMnlcE

I still think more is needed going to SJ but I like the originality of this idea
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7 mars 2023 à 20 h 43
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Quoting: poeticentropy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnyyQOMnlcE

I still think more is needed going to SJ but I like the originality of this idea


I thought the same about for for SJ, but they already get a win no matter. It doesn't matter if Nurse doesn't play to his salary, he will almost certainly be worth his cap hit even by the end, and he can be traded in 4 years with retained salary if he fails. If Campbell regains his form, he isn't good enough to carry the team out of tbe draft lottery, but he might be good enough for a good flip for more capital or a stabilizing guy in net to not completely deflate the youth; if he sucks more, he only helps rebuild odds.

At 4 years time, 4 million of dead cap won't be great, but the cap will be enough to compensate. Plus, this buys cap space today.
7 mars 2023 à 21 h 38
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Love the concept. I've wanted to see this type of scenario, and this might be a good way to use it.
Not sure Edmonton would or should go for it, you'd have to think they want to extend their window well into McDavid's next contract, but assuming any scenario where they lose him or voluntarily rebuild, it can work.
7 mars 2023 à 21 h 53
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Quoting: ricochetii
Love the concept. I've wanted to see this type of scenario, and this might be a good way to use it.
Not sure Edmonton would or should go for it, you'd have to think they want to extend their window well into McDavid's next contract, but assuming any scenario where they lose him or voluntarily rebuild, it can work.


The window can extend with proper moves. Is EK for 4 years better than 7 years of Nurse? I think worst case is a wash for Edmonton. Edmonton doesn't really get punished for a few more years of Nurse cap retention based on cap economics going up, even marginally. Bad contracts drop off. What will motivate McDavid to stay is if any youth starts pushing more. If the current pipeline is really dry, and winning is on Mcdavids mind, he will leave regardless. There is nothing Holland can do to keep his guy at that point, so why not go for it now...
7 mars 2023 à 22 h 30
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The window can extend with proper moves. Is EK for 4 years better than 7 years of Nurse? I think worst case is a wash for Edmonton. Edmonton doesn't really get punished for a few more years of Nurse cap retention based on cap economics going up, even marginally. Bad contracts drop off. What will motivate McDavid to stay is if any youth starts pushing more. If the current pipeline is really dry, and winning is on Mcdavids mind, he will leave regardless. There is nothing Holland can do to keep his guy at that point, so why not go for it now...


Problem is that when the cap goes up, it just means good players make more. You're investing a lot of money in Ekholm and Karlsson. When their contracts end, you're going to be looking at replacing them with more expensive defensemen, but with $4M less flexibility. What you're getting for $11-12M now, is going to cost you at least $15-16M then, just counting for the retention and not inflation of player salaries.
I agree with going for it now, at all costs. I'm only suggesting this particular cost may shorten the window of opportunity considerably.
Once you retain, that's locked in. You can't recover that cap hit or trade it off, so you have to be extra careful with the long term effects. If McDavid was 32 and signed until 36, it makes more sense. You can afford that retention then because you are either entering a rebuild or maybe he'll be more affordable in his twilight years.
I still like the idea, and it works if Edmonton is all in for 4 years and prepared to start over at that point, but that's a strong determination to make before winning a cup with this group.
 
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