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Leafs add Bruiser for playoffs Wings get young talent

Créé par: chrisik33
Publié: 24 févr. 2023 à 15 h 36
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 48/185 (26%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Red Wings de DetroitRed Wings de Detroit

Transaction simultanéeStatut initialNouveau statutImpact sur la masse salarialeFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hägg, RobertLNHMineures-207 568 $-1-----------
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chiarot, BenRed Wings de DetroitLNH-1 232 432 $011---5741216--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Woll, JosephExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoRappel d'urgence-198 919 $011-------0.030.001
Timmins, ConorMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-220 541 $011---2321113--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial6 227 764 $2346783713
Variation1 020 540 $011000
Final7 248 304 $ (↑)2347 (↑)79 (↑)3713-2-1-3

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Woll, JosephExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoRappel d'urgence-766 667 $011-------0.030.001
Timmins, ConorMaple Leafs de TorontoLNH-850 000 $011---2321113--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Chiarot, BenRed Wings de DetroitLNH-4 750 000 $011---5741216--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial4 420 833 $2349692210
Variation-3 133 333 $-1-1-1000
Final1 287 500 $ (↓)22 (↓)48 (↓)68 (↓)2210213
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24 févr. 2023 à 17 h 27
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Not hard to tell your a leaf’s fan lol. Your asking for Det’s stay at home top pair dman and giving them a bottom pair guy and a 4th string goalie… I hope this is a troll post
24 févr. 2023 à 19 h 24
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The funny thing is...

I'm a Red Wings fan.

Here's my convoluted reasoning:

(1) I think Edvinsson is ready to break into the NHL. and (2) Chiarot is blocking him.

That's just the start. I have several more reasons and they all revolve around (3) I don't like Chiarot.

He lays out some big hits. Awesome. But on every pairing, he drags down: Seider. And now Hronek. He's 31 and slowing down. The big hits and toughness are fine... the constant misplays/ giveaways/ misses are not. 32 in May? And signed for 3 more years? IMO, he's an albatross. I think trading him is addition by subtraction. He is NOT a top pairing D'man. Not anymore. He should be 3rd pairing on the left side. But a playoff team would want him just for the toughness element required there. But... Detroit is still team-building and as far as I'm concerned, Chiarot is blocking this team's growth. Yzerman can find playoff toughness elsewhere.

I want to:
1) Clear his future salary off the books.
2) Extend Walman because he's been a great pairing with Seider.
3) Eliminate an overall negative defenseman by trading Chiarot.
4) Open up a spot for Edvinsson
5) You're not going to get a tremendous return for Chiarot: not with 3 years after this one, 32 starting next year and showing his age, net negative on the ice and that was with SEIDER!
6) I am perfectly fine with RHD Timmins. Selected 32nd overall in 2017... he's been a puck-mover his entire career. In the minors. Like Walman, he needs ice time/ opportunity in the NHL. Like Walman, I think he surprises on the upside. And if he ends up 3rd pairing only on the right side... I'm good with that.
7) Woll has been getting better the last few years in the minors, going from college .918 save %, to 2020 AHL .890 save %, to 2021 AHL/ NHL .910 save %, to 2022 AHL/ NHL .930 save %.24 y.o. 6' 3" goalie drafted by the Leafs in thge 3rd round 2016... I think he deserves the chance to see if he can back up Husso.

I am perfectly fine with getting these two guys for albatross Chiarot.

In fact, it's Leafs that probably say no... unless they are enamored with Chiarot's toughness/ hits and are willing to take on 3 more years of him after this year at $4.75 mill AAV.

But I doubt it. This is a wish-trade... I wish Yzerman could get rid of Chiarot for exactly a package liker this...
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25 févr. 2023 à 1 h 18
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To get that chariot contract gone absolutely yes
25 févr. 2023 à 7 h 20
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This trade would be a huge win for Detroit.

We're very short of talent depth on RD and have too many LD and getting a young goalie with some talent as well makes this a rally good deal.
 
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