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My Guess on Kane

Créé par: GM69
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2023
Publié: 24 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Yes per cap friendly this puts them over the cap even with accrual. In the real world, if you trade/waive Leschyshyn on/by 2/26/23, and trade Kravtsov on the trade deadline (3/3/23) you would have just enough space to get Kane at 75% retained (only by about 16k). It really limits any moves until the playoffs (in terms of call ups, etc.). They also may start sending Scheider down to the AHL on off days (he's waivers exempt) just to save as much as possible.
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Kane, Patrick
12 625 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
    "Future Considerations" (retention on kane, see secondary trade)

    Happens on/before 2/26
    2.
    NYR
      Extra Retention on Kane (50% after 50% retained by chicago, 2.625m cap hit)
      ANA
      1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
      2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
      3.
      NYR
        Patrick Kane (2.625m after ANA retention)

        Happens on 3/3/23 (tdl day)
        CHI
        1. Kravtsov, Vitali
        2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
        3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
        Détails additionnels:
        **CONDITION: IF NYR WIN THE CUP, CHICAGO GETS NY 2024 1ST ROUND PICK AND NYR KEEP BOTH 2ND ROUNDERS (2023, 2024)
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        2025
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        TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
        2182 500 000 $85 303 969 $0 $3 700 000 $-2 803 969 $
        Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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        6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
        AG
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        UFA - 5
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        8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
        C
        NMC
        UFA - 8
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        3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
        AD
        NTC
        UFA - 1
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        11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
        AG
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
        C, AD
        NMC
        UFA - 7
        Kane, Patrick
        2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
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        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
        AG, AD
        RFA - 1
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        2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
        C, AG
        UFA - 1
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        2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
        AD
        RFA - 2
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        1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
        AG, AD
        UFA - 1
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        3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
        C, AG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 5
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        750 000 $750 000 $
        AD, AG
        UFA - 1
        Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        DG
        RFA - 2
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 7
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
        G
        UFA - 3
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1
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        8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
        DD
        NMC
        UFA - 4
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        1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance50 000 $$50K)
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 1
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        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
        DG
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
        DD
        RFA - 2
        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
        Logo de Rangers de New York
        750 000 $750 000 $
        DG
        UFA - 1

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        24 févr. 2023 à 14 h 19
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        Quoting: Campabee
        Arguing with you two is pointless cause you think the Hakws have zero leverage, reality is their leverage is a HOF player in Patrick Kane. They don't have to move him but will if they get a good package back and 2 2nd's + a BS bust prospect is not a good package.


        When Chicago ownership callls Davidson and ask him why did you not get anything in return for Kane , when the owner knows that Kane is leaving in free agency and at the time still had control of him. It is going to make Davidson very inept as a GM.
        24 févr. 2023 à 14 h 24
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        Quoting: ALjet12
        When Chicago ownership callls Davidson and ask him why did you not get anything in return for Kane , when the owner knows that Kane is leaving in free agency and at the time still had control of him. It is going to make Davidson very inept as a GM.


        Ok let's flip this around for a second, say Kane does only waive for NY and this is the only offer Drury is willing to put forward. Do you think Davidson will just forget that, do you think other teams GM's are going to overlook the fact that Drury isn't offering fair value? This sort of offer is as bad for Drury's career as the OF MB made for Aho was for his.
        24 févr. 2023 à 14 h 46
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        Quoting: Campabee
        Ok let's flip this around for a second, say Kane does only waive for NY and this is the only offer Drury is willing to put forward. Do you think Davidson will just forget that, do you think other teams GM's are going to overlook the fact that Drury isn't offering fair value? This sort of offer is as bad for Drury's career as the OF MB made for Aho was for his.


        Not at all. I think that if Drury pulls it off he's going to look like a genius. Will Davidson forget it? Probably not, but that's not Drury's problem. I don't think that other GM's will care even a little bit, because they would do the SAME EXACT THING if it was their team and not NYR (see what happened with Giroux last year)


        MB's downfall was not the Aho OS, it was:
        - The Drouin Trade
        - Drafting poorly for almost a decade
        - Trading the compensation for KK for Dvorak
        - Downturn in the careers of Price & Weber


        MB 1st round draft picks - Galchenyuk, McCarron, Scherbak, Juulsen, Sergachyov (one of his best picks he traded for Drouin), Poehling, Kotkaniemi (lost to OS), Caufield (his best pick), Guhle, Mailloux (lol)
        24 févr. 2023 à 14 h 52
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        Quoting: Campabee
        Ok let's flip this around for a second, say Kane does only waive for NY and this is the only offer Drury is willing to put forward. Do you think Davidson will just forget that, do you think other teams GM's are going to overlook the fact that Drury isn't offering fair value? This sort of offer is as bad for Drury's career as the OF MB made for Aho was for his.


        First off every GM knows when you have leverage use it that is just part of business. Second an offersheet is frown upon because the players who get offersheet are RFA under full control by there teams and for the original team to meet the offersheet it takes capspace that team would not want to willingly give up.
        28 févr. 2023 à 15 h 4
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        Quoting: Campabee
        Arguing with you two is pointless cause you think the Hakws have zero leverage, reality is their leverage is a HOF player in Patrick Kane. They don't have to move him but will if they get a good package back and 2 2nd's + a BS bust prospect is not a good package.


        so about getting two 2nds... how about one and a 4th?
        28 févr. 2023 à 15 h 11
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        The Hawks won't just accept any BS offer just cause you say they will though, they will get back a 1st ++ regardless of whether it's just NY or any contender. You have to pay to play the game at the TDL


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        28 févr. 2023 à 15 h 19
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        so about getting two 2nds... how about one and a 4th?


        Well, I must say that the Hawks screwed themselves out of a good package here but I am big enough to admit when I am wrong. In this case I was wrong.
         
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