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Horvat to Washington 3 way trade

Créé par: CEO
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 5 sept. 2022
Publié: 5 sept. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Chesley, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
WSH
  1. Horvat, Bo (2 750 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
ARI
  1. Poolman, Tucker
Détails additionnels:
Washington pays dump as part of 3 way trade
3.
NJD
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
TDL
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $79 726 667 $1 250 000 $2 000 000 $2 773 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1

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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 7
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Why are we trading Bo? There is no benefit in trading our captain who wants to win with this team; the only way it makes sense is if we get an overpayment in a trade for him
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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 9
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Why are we trading Bo? There is no benefit in trading our captain who wants to win with this team; the only way it makes sense is if we get an overpayment in a trade for him


and that sure isn’t an overpayment
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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 9
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Why are we trading Bo? There is no benefit in trading our captain who wants to win with this team; the only way it makes sense is if we get an overpayment in a trade for him


We extend him, say 6.5M Cap hit. With Miller and Pettersson, that's 21.85M for centers. A year more and you have to pay Pettersson atleast another Million dollars annually. 23M for 3 centers alone?
5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: Warpbox
and that sure isn’t an overpayment


2 firsts? (Chesley seems like what the Canucks would get from a late first) Not an overpayment, but fair. Also 2.5M in Cap flexibility? Worth another 2nd maybe?
5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 12
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We extend him, say 6.5M Cap hit. With Miller and Pettersson, that's 21.85M for centers. A year more and you have to pay Pettersson atleast another Million dollars annually. 23M for 3 centers alone?


That's not even bad if they are all high-quality guys, it makes no sense to trade any of them, especially when we arent getting a good nhl ready player back
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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 12
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2 firsts? (Chesley seems like what the Canucks would get from a late first) Not an overpayment, but fair. Also 2.5M in Cap flexibility? Worth another 2nd maybe?


Fair value is not a reason to trade Horvat. They can afford to keep him next year. If they need cap spend picks on cap dumps
5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 13
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Fair value is not a reason to trade Horvat. They can afford to keep him next year. If they need cap spend picks on cap dumps


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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 16
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We need ELCs, not migraines


We need to win, and trading horvat is not the way to do that unless we're getting a proven top 4 right shot defensemen and more
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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 18
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We need to win, and trading horvat is not the way to do that unless we're getting a proven top 4 right shot defensemen and more


In 2 years Chesley's ELC is gonna help us more than a 7.5M 3C
5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 23
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In 2 years Chesley's ELC is gonna help us more than a 7.5M 3C


"2 years" its the same garbage as we're two years away from being good, our stars are gonna get fed up with only making the playoffs once in a decade, Horvat is not the guy to trade and this isnt a good package if we were to trade him. Even if Horvat was playing 3rd line centre, and there's nothing saying he would be bc both Miller and Petey can play the wing, he'd still be #1 Powerplay and be playing more than a traditional 3rd line center.
5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 29
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Devils probably accept if they're sellers but I wouldn't make that assumption quite yet
5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 35
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Devils probably accept if they're sellers but I wouldn't make that assumption quite yet


I'd be pretty surprised if the devils were sellers at the TDL this year, I feel they'll be in the battle for a playoff spot at that time
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5 sept. 2022 à 12 h 48
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In 2 years Chesley's ELC is gonna help us more than a 7.5M 3C


I highly doubt Horvat makes 7.5 and our “3C” is a 30 goal scorer. Let’s not act like he’s some useless grinder
5 sept. 2022 à 13 h 4
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I highly doubt Horvat makes 7.5 and our “3C” is a 30 goal scorer. Let’s not act like he’s some useless grinder


He isn't. He's an amazing player. Assuming we keep him, the Canucks have, by far and wide, the best center depth in the league. But like having a team of 18 McDavid's but a scarecrow as a goalie isnt gonna win you championships. The canucks could keep Horvat, or trade him for something that better suits their needs
5 sept. 2022 à 13 h 6
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He isn't. He's an amazing player. Assuming we keep him, the Canucks have, by far and wide, the best center depth in the league. But like having a team of 18 McDavid's but a scarecrow as a goalie isnt gonna win you championships. The canucks could keep Horvat, or trade him for something that better suits their needs


This doesn’t suit there needs though. They need a D man to play with Hughes. We all saw the Miller contract. They want to win now. They don’t want “nice pieces in 3-4 years” they want a player to win for them. This doesn’t get you that
5 sept. 2022 à 13 h 9
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Quoting: canucksfan43
"2 years" its the same garbage as we're two years away from being good, our stars are gonna get fed up with only making the playoffs once in a decade, Horvat is not the guy to trade and this isnt a good package if we were to trade him. Even if Horvat was playing 3rd line centre, and there's nothing saying he would be bc both Miller and Petey can play the wing, he'd still be #1 Powerplay and be playing more than a traditional 3rd line center.


Yeah, but we have a salary cap. And yes, team like Toronto have found success (lol maybe they haven't) with having a few, highly paid, stars. I dunno if the canucks have that kind of star power. With OEL Poolman, basically filling the rest of our slots with league minimum like contracts might not be the best option for us. Lekkerimaki is the only ELC we can look forward to, no garuntee there either. Chesley will be a solid RD in a few years. Someone like Rodriguez who can play 3C at less than 3.5M would be valuable to us. Im not against keeping Horvat, I love the guy. But by keeping Miller, we have some toigh decisions to make
5 sept. 2022 à 13 h 10
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This doesn’t suit there needs though. They need a D man to play with Hughes. We all saw the Miller contract. They want to win now. They don’t want “nice pieces in 3-4 years” they want a player to win for them. This doesn’t get you that


What if it was to, say, Columbus for Andrew Peeke and a 1st, with Poolman dump. Not saying I have any reason to believe Columbus would do that, just asking
 
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