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Expedited Rebuild

Créé par: LawJeffreyL
Équipe: 2017-18 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 9 mai 2017
Publié: 22 mai 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Post-Expansion draft. Moves being made
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1925 000 $
2925 000 $
21 100 000 $
1850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Kovalchuk, Ilya
36 000 000 $
Patrick/, Hischier
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NJD
  1. Fowler, Cam
Détails additionnels:
(Pre-Expansion Draft)
2.
NJD
    Expansion Draft Selection
    Rachats de contrats
    Frais appliqués
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2018
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de FLA
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    2019
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    2020
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de NJD
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    Logo de NJD
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2373 000 000 $49 570 833 $0 $1 307 500 $23 429 167 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 3
    2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    Kovalchuk, Ilya
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Patrick/, Hischier
    925 000 $925 000 $
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    850 000 $850 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    894 166 $894 166 $
    C
    RFA - 4
    728 333 $728 333 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
    C
    UFA - 3
    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    650 000 $650 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    1 575 000 $1 575 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    2 666 667 $2 666 667 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    1 137 500 $1 137 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
     
    Kovalchuk, I.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Infériorité numérique 2

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    22 mai 2017 à 14 h 42
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    That fowler trade is a joke
    22 mai 2017 à 14 h 47
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    Just wanted to take a look at what this team would look like if these were the only moves made.
    1. Anaheim is losing a defenseman one way or another, so it makes sense to get a protected asset for it. (Quenneville may not be the right piece, but something along those lines, perhaps gets the job done)
    2. Kovalchuk is likely doing a sign and trade, but here it looks like if he decides to call NJ home again.
    3. Camm and DSP are the likely odd men out, but I have no idea if there is anywhere to move them to. If there is a trade involved, we will likely be getting no return for DSP, and eating money for Camm. If that's the case, add Bennett into the 23 man roster, and possibly an UFA.
    4. This defense is a major upgrade, but having Lovejoy AND Merrill both on the roster isn't something that inspires a lot of hope.
    22 mai 2017 à 14 h 49
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    Modifié 22 mai 2017 à 14 h 56
    @StammerTime, I was typing up the explanation. Fowler would likely demand more of a return, I was just using it as a piece. You'd probably have to add a pick into the mix, at a minimum

    I would like to hear anyone else's thought of an accurate return, given the circumstances, too
    22 mai 2017 à 15 h 15
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    First off Fowler isn't the one that's going to get traded? It will be Vatanen and Quenneville doesn't get it done, I seriously doubt that New Jersey has the pieces to get Cam Fowler without at least Pavel Zacha being part of the deal.
    22 mai 2017 à 15 h 42
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    Quoting: Larkinisking
    First off Fowler isn't the one that's going to get traded? It will be Vatanen and Quenneville doesn't get it done, I seriously doubt that New Jersey has the pieces to get Cam Fowler without at least Pavel Zacha being part of the deal.


    Zacha doesn't get you close to Fowler. McCleod is probably the best starting piece.
    Quoting: LawJeffreyL
    Just wanted to take a look at what this team would look like if these were the only moves made.
    1. Anaheim is losing a defenseman one way or another, so it makes sense to get a protected asset for it. (Quenneville may not be the right piece, but something along those lines, perhaps gets the job done)
    2. Kovalchuk is likely doing a sign and trade, but here it looks like if he decides to call NJ home again.
    3. Camm and DSP are the likely odd men out, but I have no idea if there is anywhere to move them to. If there is a trade involved, we will likely be getting no return for DSP, and eating money for Camm. If that's the case, add Bennett into the 23 man roster, and possibly an UFA.
    4. This defense is a major upgrade, but having Lovejoy AND Merrill both on the roster isn't something that inspires a lot of hope.


    I love the consensus that ANA is definitely losing a defenseman. What makes more sense to you if you are ANA? Giving Vegas three 1st rounders to not take a defensman like Fowler/Vatanen or forward like Slifverberg OR taking a bunch of trash from another team? I'd rather give up unknown assets/futures to keep a win now team together than I would trade away a significant piece for trash like everyone posts on here
    22 mai 2017 à 15 h 44
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    Quoting: Larkinisking
    First off Fowler isn't the one that's going to get traded? It will be Vatanen and Quenneville doesn't get it done, I seriously doubt that New Jersey has the pieces to get Cam Fowler without at least Pavel Zacha being part of the deal.


    I don't disagree that Quenneville doesn't get it done straight up (probably not with a 2nd included, either). Anaheim, Minnesota and Nashville are examples of a handful of teams that are all in the same defensive abundance scenario, and about an equal amount of teams that are potential trade partners in return, unless more trades are lined up immediately following.

    I more or less used that trade as a (pie in the sky) placeholder. A defensive upgrade for an asset that is too good for the minors, yet runs into a numbers issue in NJ.
    22 mai 2017 à 15 h 55
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    Quoting: NateElder12
    Quoting: Larkinisking
    First off Fowler isn't the one that's going to get traded? It will be Vatanen and Quenneville doesn't get it done, I seriously doubt that New Jersey has the pieces to get Cam Fowler without at least Pavel Zacha being part of the deal.


    Zacha doesn't get you close to Fowler. McCleod is probably the best starting piece.
    Quoting: LawJeffreyL
    Just wanted to take a look at what this team would look like if these were the only moves made.
    1. Anaheim is losing a defenseman one way or another, so it makes sense to get a protected asset for it. (Quenneville may not be the right piece, but something along those lines, perhaps gets the job done)
    2. Kovalchuk is likely doing a sign and trade, but here it looks like if he decides to call NJ home again.
    3. Camm and DSP are the likely odd men out, but I have no idea if there is anywhere to move them to. If there is a trade involved, we will likely be getting no return for DSP, and eating money for Camm. If that's the case, add Bennett into the 23 man roster, and possibly an UFA.
    4. This defense is a major upgrade, but having Lovejoy AND Merrill both on the roster isn't something that inspires a lot of hope.


    I love the consensus that ANA is definitely losing a defenseman. What makes more sense to you if you are ANA? Giving Vegas three 1st rounders to not take a defensman like Fowler/Vatanen or forward like Slifverberg OR taking a bunch of trash from another team? I'd rather give up unknown assets/futures to keep a win now team together than I would trade away a significant piece for trash like everyone posts on here


    The issue isn't so much that you'd have to give up all of that to keep him. The issue (for me, at least) is you have to give that up within your division. It's hard to say how much Vegas would demand to keep those players off the list, but do you really want to see your first rounders going to a team in your own division? And all of that, while you're somewhat hampered by the salary cap (unless a somewhat significant jump takes place this season). Some teams may take that chance, but I wouldn't be one to hand my #1's to a soon-to-be rival. I'd get the most return for my player in the opposite conference, if at all possible.
    22 mai 2017 à 16 h 14
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    and again ... Kovy is not going to play for Devils ... !!! IF !!! he came back, Devils will trade him
    22 mai 2017 à 16 h 17
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    Quoting: zagi20202
    and again ... Kovy is not going to play for Devils ... !!! IF !!! he came back, Devils will trade him


    I mentioned that in my comment, because I was too delayed to add the team explanation at the top. But yes, the almost certainty is a sign and trade
     
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