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On paper its really not that bad

Créé par: FrannyMan1
Équipe: 2022-23 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 19 août 2022
Publié: 19 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I wanna preface this by saying I don’t think this team will be a team that has legitimate playoff hopes. However, looking at this team, I think they have a chance to be more competitive than the penciled in 8th place that most people are giving them. Obviously most of this is contingent on the health of ellis and couterier, but the top 6 is not terrible and the defense is actually pretty decent despite not having any real superstar talent. I think the top 6 consists of 6 guys who are legitimate middle 6 players with a couple having top 6 potential. With the exception of Couterier who is a true number 1 2 way center, none of these guys are ppg players. However i don’t think its insane to say they could all be in the 45-65ish range in the right situation. The defense certainly includes some flawed players and there probably isnt much seperation between ur 3 pairs, but honestly if deangelo and ristolainen end up being your 4th and 5th best defenseman with deangelo qbing the pp, I think at least on paper you are pretty deep on the d end. You still lack a true number 1 defenseman, but I think when healthy both provorov and ellis would be decent 2nd defenseman on most teams, and sanheim after that is solid as well. Theres definitely a major dropoff in the bottom 6 forwards and the goaltending is still very unproven but Harts still young enough to turn it around. The long-term outlook is certainly not there with some of the stinker contracts and this team probably tears most of it down before seeing the playoffs again, but I think this team could be a lot more competitive at least this year than most people are giving it credit for. Obviously its a tough division and the front office decision making has been highly questionable, but as somoene whos not a fan of the team and not so intimately close to the situation I wouldnt be surprised if they ended up ahead of 1, 2, hell even 3 teams in the metro if everything broke right for them. Would love to hear some opinions on this. Am I completely lost on this one, is this team guaranteed to finish 8th in the metro or could they finish ahead of a couple of the other teams?
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19 août 2022 à 18 h 57
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First off - Do we know what Ellis is doing??

Second off - Fedotov is currently in the salt mines I wouldn't include him in any future plans

Third off - Without even factoring in the coach, this team is still awful

Fourth off - Taxi squad scratches won't work, will have to find a work around within the cap
19 août 2022 à 19 h 7
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Like I said, it is certainly contingent on the health of ellis and couterier. Being thats its the nhl, and that its the offseason I’d say that even the guess of some people in the organization is as good as yours or mine as to how ellis is doing. You could probably put anyone in that backup goalie spot for this thought experiment, I don’t think it really makes much of a difference being that he has no nhl experience, sure hes got some potential but if hart would lose the number 1 role to him than theres probably no chance of anything but an 8th place finish for them anyways. The taxi squad thing might as well be you placing them in the ahl, it would have zero impact on the cap either way. Coaching will certainly have an impact, but can’t imagine that you could get much worse from what its been.
19 août 2022 à 19 h 27
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The team is just good enough to not get a top pick, but still bad enough not to challenge for anything notable.
And that's the worst spot to be in in the NHL.
In the long-term, we'd be much better off if it was much worse on paper
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19 août 2022 à 21 h 55
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Unfortunately, this all revolves around everyone staying healthy, and we still don’t even know what is going on with Ellis. We can already make a safe bet that a couple of the top 6 will get injured, with Couturier more than likely being one of them. The Flyers will be good enough not to get a top pick, but bad enough to not make the playoffs. My guess is that the Flyers will be around the 10-16 range, but if everyone is healthy, at least for about 70-75 games, I could see the Flyers at least being close to a playoff spot.

That being said, when the Flyers do inevitably realize that they won’t make the playoffs, who do you think they sell of and for how much?
 
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