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Créé par: islesadist
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 19 août 2022
Publié: 19 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Can’t talk extension? This is the best you’re going to get then
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 500 000 $
32 250 000 $
21 200 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Wilde, Bode
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $80 928 296 $245 796 $1 287 500 $1 571 704 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
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6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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19 août 2022 à 14 h 44
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I’m talking about their value right now vs the deadline. No team has the room to absorb millers cap hit and give up premium assets rn. Maybe at the deadline when the teams know their draft picks will be towards the end of the rounds and they have cap space. Miller is not getting more then debrincat or fiala rn


Then the Canucks just wait until the deadline. Ain’t too hard to do…
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19 août 2022 à 15 h 12
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What’s laughable is Canucks fans who think Miller should get more than fiala and debrincat in return


What’s laughable is Isles fans who think they can acquire a 99 point player for scraps
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19 août 2022 à 15 h 21
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What’s laughable is Isles fans who think they can acquire a 99 point player for scraps


Well it’s reasonable to assume millers value is somewhere between debrincat/fiala and pacorietty or bkorstrand . That’s what I offered. Keep being delusional if you think it’s more
19 août 2022 à 17 h 27
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Well it’s reasonable to assume millers value is somewhere between debrincat/fiala and pacorietty or bkorstrand . That’s what I offered. Keep being delusional if you think it’s more


Miller is the only one that can play center of those players, and centers have more trade value than wingers. He had the most points of those players last year, 3rd most goals, and 2nd most 5v5 points. Vegas and Columbus needed to move out cap, that’s why Pacioretty and Bjorkstrand were moved for nothing/small return. Keep being delusional if you think you’re getting what would be your best forward without giving up valuable pieces
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19 août 2022 à 18 h 59
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Miller is the only one that can play center of those players, and centers have more trade value than wingers. He had the most points of those players last year, 3rd most goals, and 2nd most 5v5 points. Vegas and Columbus needed to move out cap, that’s why Pacioretty and Bjorkstrand were moved for nothing/small return. Keep being delusional if you think you’re getting what would be your best forward without giving up valuable pieces



Lol debrincat is 6 years younger and an rfa. Fiala is also an rfa. Canucks won’t let teams talk contract and Miller wants a huge pay day at 30. Delusional
19 août 2022 à 19 h 7
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Miller is the only one that can play center of those players, and centers have more trade value than wingers. He had the most points of those players last year, 3rd most goals, and 2nd most 5v5 points. Vegas and Columbus needed to move out cap, that’s why Pacioretty and Bjorkstrand were moved for nothing/small return. Keep being delusional if you think you’re getting what would be your best forward without giving up valuable pieces


Also basically every contending team that would want Miller needs to move out cap already, before acquiring Miller. Better hope he stays healthy for the trade deadline
19 août 2022 à 19 h 48
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Lol debrincat is 6 years younger and an rfa. Fiala is also an rfa. Canucks won’t let teams talk contract and Miller wants a huge pay day at 30. Delusional


It’s a pretty consensus opinion Chicago got robbed in that trade. One underpayment doesn’t set the market. RFA wingers usually don’t get moved for high prices, Fiala’s return is one of the higher ones.

You are offering far less than what Kyle Palmieri, Nick Foligno, David Savard, Ben Chiarot, and Giroux returned as rentals. Miller is better than all of them, and far better than all of them apart from Giroux. At worst he gets a similar return to Giroux, not this garbage
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19 août 2022 à 19 h 51
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Doesn't anyone get it?????? Van and Isles are NOT good trading partners. Van fans want the moon for Miller and Isles fans aren't willing to gut team (futures) for him and then pay him 8M+ for the next 7 years....

So can't we just agree to move on?
19 août 2022 à 21 h 38
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You’re acting like there is a bidding war. Teams all probably offered similar packages and Vancouver said no and now here you are


The most known package that has been offered was by New york and it was Lundqiusvt Chytill and 1st. if you think we would accept a worse offer your out of your mind
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19 août 2022 à 21 h 43
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The most known package that has been offered was by New york and it was Lundqiusvt Chytill and 1st. if you think we would accept a worse offer your out of your mind


And that was for the rest of 2021-22, the 2022 playoffs and the 2022-23 season. Vancouver should have taken that offer and ran
19 août 2022 à 21 h 44
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It’s a pretty consensus opinion Chicago got robbed in that trade. One underpayment doesn’t set the market. RFA wingers usually don’t get moved for high prices, Fiala’s return is one of the higher ones.

You are offering far less than what Kyle Palmieri, Nick Foligno, David Savard, Ben Chiarot, and Giroux returned as rentals. Miller is better than all of them, and far better than all of them apart from Giroux. At worst he gets a similar return to Giroux, not this garbage


maybe at the trade deadline when the teams know that their first round picks are going be at least 16-32
19 août 2022 à 21 h 47
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And that was for the rest of 2021-22, the 2022 playoffs and the 2022-23 season. Vancouver should have taken that offer and ran


It wasn't a great offer to begin with lmfao Miller since that offer hit 99 points in a season I get he is a ufa but much worse ufa's have gotten worse quite frankly I'd rather lose Miller for nothing next offseason the accept an offer as bad as this one
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19 août 2022 à 21 h 54
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It wasn't a great offer to begin with lmfao Miller since that offer hit 99 points in a season I get he is a ufa but much worse ufa's have gotten worse quite frankly I'd rather lose Miller for nothing next offseason the accept an offer as bad as this one


i'm just giving you an example of what is probably being offered right now and what his worth is given the cap situations of most contenders. He's worth less than debrincat and fiala on rfa status and age alone. it's indisputable
19 août 2022 à 21 h 56
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i'm just giving you an example of what is probably being offered right now and what his worth is given the cap situations of most contenders. He's worth less than debrincat and fiala on rfa status and age alone. it's indisputable


Lmao so you really believe the value between a 99 point center and 34 point winger Is a 3rd? Let's not forget the isles offerd us their 1st at the draft for Miller and we said no, that offer that was reported in real life already blows away what you have offered
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19 août 2022 à 22 h 5
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Lmao so you really believe the value between a 99 point center and 34 point winger Is a 3rd? Let's not forget the isles offerd us their 1st at the draft for Miller and we said no, that offer that was reported in real life already blows away what you have offered


that was rumored and it didn't happen. lou got a young rfa with that pick instead, which is what gm's covet most
19 août 2022 à 22 h 6
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that was rumored and it didn't happen. lou got a young rfa with that pick instead, which is what gm's covet most


it may not have happened but it shows you his value is way higher then what you are suggesting
19 août 2022 à 22 h 7
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it may not have happened but it shows you his value is way higher then what you are suggesting


Eh we will see, enjoy him for the season and i hope he gets the return your hoping for at the trade deadline
19 août 2022 à 22 h 10
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it may not have happened but it shows you his value is way higher then what you are suggesting


And that first was offered based upon Lou being able to negotiate a contract with Miller. Since that is not being allowed, that was not a price lou was willing to pay
 
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