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Créé par: JonnyLamoriello
Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 18 août 2022
Publié: 18 août 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
NYI
  1. Miller, J.T. (1 000 000 $ retained)
VAN
  1. Bellows, Kieffer [Droits de RFA]
  2. Iskhakov, Ruslan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 364 963 $245 796 $1 287 500 $135 037 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Islanders de New York
6 150 000 $6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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18 août 2022 à 16 h 58
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No matter what you offer Vancouver fans will say no they think he’s a god
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: Hockeypal
No matter what you offer Vancouver fans will say no they think he’s a god


All most Canucks fans want is a first + a top 4 D/top prospect
18 août 2022 à 17 h 0
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Incoming vancouver fan saying *this is nowhere near enough*
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 1
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All most Canucks fans want is a first + a top 4 D/top prospect


Have you ever heard the saying that the loudest voices are generally in the minority?
18 août 2022 à 17 h 1
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A trade would most likely be 1st, 2nd, Dufor.
18 août 2022 à 17 h 2
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Have you ever heard the saying that the loudest voices are generally in the minority?

Why?
18 août 2022 à 17 h 4
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I would do it in a heart beat, with that being said you need a RD prospect or Mayfield. I know Nucks fans don't value Mayfield that much but you can easily flip him at the deadline for a first round pick. Hell if you retain as well its likes 750k in cap. Any contender can easily squeeze him in so you would probs get more than Chariot and Savard did
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 4
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Quoting: Warrior24
A trade would most likely be 1st, 2nd, Dufor.


Dufour just got promoted to canadas first line in WJ.

Guy is playing rly well. He’s going to be a solid nhler, i believe.

If want dufour, have to remove the 2nd, would think.
18 août 2022 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: Warpbox
Why?


I'm saying that, yes, that is what most fans would want, but the loudest people think he is worth 2 firsts, an A level prospect plus a RHD
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: Hockeypal
No matter what you offer Vancouver fans will say no they think he’s a god


99 points is pretty darn good. Almost double the Isles leasing point scorer last year. He’s worth more than a first and some middling pieces
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: huey2107
Incoming vancouver fan saying *this is nowhere near enough*


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Incoming vancouver fan saying *this is nowhere near enough*


Chiarot, Savard, Foligno, Copp, Giroux all returned a first round pick or more in the past couple trade deadlines as pure rentals. Miller is far superior to all of them. Gonna tell me why Miller shouldn’t be valued more than these guys?
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: huey2107
Incoming vancouver fan saying *this is nowhere near enough*


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No matter what you offer Vancouver fans will say no they think he’s a god


Easy no from Vancouver. This is no where near enough. Miller is basically a god it’s gunna cost at least barzal, who is a 20 goal 70 point guy making $10 million this coming season, to get Jt
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: Juiceman
99 points is pretty darn good. Almost double the Isles leasing point scorer last year. He’s worth more than a first and some middling pieces


This is not really apples to apples. Miller in a trotz system would not put up 99 points.
18 août 2022 à 17 h 14
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Canucks pass
18 août 2022 à 17 h 14
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Quoting: JonnyLamoriello
This is not really apples to apples. Miller in a trotz system would not put up 99 points.


Why would a team trade for a player if they won’t succeed in their system? Maybe they should fire Trotz because he’s making the Isles an offensive blackhole
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 15
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Why would a team trade for a player if they won’t succeed in their system? Maybe they should fire Trotz because he’s making the Isles an offensive blackhole


You should not be making trades on capfriendly if you don’t know that trotz was already fired.
18 août 2022 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Easy no from Vancouver. This is no where near enough. Miller is basically a god it’s gunna cost at least barzal, who is a 20 goal 70 point guy making $10 million this coming season, to get Jt


It is not going to cost Barzal grimace

Patches and Bjorkstrand went for scraps yes the canucks have more leverage 100%. With that being said the return would be similar to a Giroux trade i.e a 1st, a B prospect and def more maybe another prospect or a player like Mayfield. Don't get your hopes up, JT Miller trade is going to very disappointing for Canucks fans
18 août 2022 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: JonnyLamoriello
This is not really apples to apples. Miller in a trotz system would not put up 99 points.


This is the most tired argument of all time. The islanders scored more 5v5 goals than the Canucks last year but miller scored more 5v5 points than anyone on the isles did.

Miller could easily be a point per game player under trotz’s system. He was under greens system and that system was terrible at generating offense
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: Hockeypal
No matter what you offer Vancouver fans will say no they think he’s a god


Sounds like you guys with Dobson
18 août 2022 à 17 h 19
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It is not going to cost Barzal grimace

Patches and Bjorkstrand went for scraps yes the canucks have more leverage 100%. With that being said the return would be similar to a Giroux trade i.e a 1st, a B prospect and def more maybe another prospect or a player like Mayfield. Don't get your hopes up, JT Miller trade is going to very disappointing for Canucks fans


I promise I won’t rub it in your nose when miller is either traded for a much better return than Giroux got or is extended with the Canucks
18 août 2022 à 17 h 20
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I promise I won’t rub it in your nose when miller is either traded for a much better return than Giroux got or is extended with the Canucks


You will get a better return that Giroux yea but you said its going to be a Barzal level return when it simply won't
18 août 2022 à 17 h 21
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You should not be making trades on capfriendly if you don’t know that trotz was already fired.


I know he was. I was seeing if you would catch on. Why would YOU say he wouldn’t put up 99 points in a Trotz system. How is that relevant since Trotz isn’t even coach 😂 😂. You played yourself bud
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18 août 2022 à 17 h 22
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You will get a better return that Giroux yea but you said its going to be a Barzal level return when it simply won't

I don’t agree with the person saying it would cost Barzal, but Miller wil still fetch a pretty good return
18 août 2022 à 17 h 24
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Quoting: huey2107
I'm saying that, yes, that is what most fans would want, but the loudest people think he is worth 2 firsts, an A level prospect plus a RHD


The loudest fans most certainly do not expect 2 first, a top prospect, and a rhd. In a Miller trade Vancouver needs a combination of 23 1st, rhd, a-tier prospect. Not all of them, but a package including some of those pieces
18 août 2022 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: FoxYou727
You will get a better return that Giroux yea but you said its going to be a Barzal level return when it simply won't


If pacioretty and bjorkstrand trades brought down millers trade value, you realize that means they also brought down barzals trade value, right?
 
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