In a Perfect World

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Créé par: JSEB93

Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2022

Publié: 14 juill. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Probably not realistic, but possible

I still think one of Pettersson/Dumo get traded and now with Rutta signing Marino should be on the move as well. Pettersson/Dumo for cap space and Marino for a forward. Could be Miller, could be Garland, or someone completely different.

With all the depth signing I am hoping that means we are actively trying to dump McGinn. With all the moves CAR made I don't think they can afford Niederreiter anymore. Dumping McGinn at least gives us a shot at him. Obviously Larsson hasn't officially been signed so that is just a guess.

Amazing top 6. Good defensive 4th line. Complete question mark for the 3rd line - although if Zucker can stay healthy I think it should be good. I think a lot of Carter's struggles came from overplaying too - he was 2nd line center, PP and PK for half the year. Let him just play 3rd line center with a dabble on the PP and he should be fine.

Defense should be interesting.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Larsson, Johan		3	1 500 000 $
Niederreiter, Nino		3	4 750 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (SEA)

SEA

Pettersson, Marcus

PIT

Miller, J.T.

VAN

Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
Marino, John
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

PIT

Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (BOS)

ARI

McGinn, Brock
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 916 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	80 691 667 $	0 $	0 $	1 808 333 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 6
Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 6
Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 2	Niederreiter, Nino 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
	Blueger, Teddy 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Larsson, Johan 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C, AG UFA
O'Connor, Drew 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1		Caggiula, Drake 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 6	Jarry, Tristan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	DeSmith, Casey 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 825 000 $825 000 $ DG RFA - 2	Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Friedman, Mark 775 000 $775 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Équipe de réserve
Archibald, Josh 900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rust, B.		Crosby, S.		Guentzel, J.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Rakell, R.		Miller, J.		Niederreiter, N.
	Carter, J.		Matheson, M.

Infériorité numérique 1
	O'Connor, D.	Blueger, T.
	Dumoulin, B.	Letang, K.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Niederreiter, N.	Larsson, J.
	Matheson, M.	Rutta, J.

14 juill. 2022 à 11 h 39

hmcgs

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another guy to look at for Marino is Josh Anderson from Montreal. Gritty top 6 winger with a good shot. Big frame (6’3” 225) that can definitely throw the body and play the physical game (something we don’t have). 19-13–32 in 69 games this year. 28 years old and signed at 5.5 for 5 more years (until he’s 33). He has a M-NTC though I believe right now it’s a 7 team no-trade list and I think that list goes down to 5 in the later years of his contract.

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14 juill. 2022 à 11 h 45

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Quoting: hmcgs

He's an option that I have heard thrown around.

Personally I think it would be a very bad move. That contract is terrible. It's like Zucker 2.0

14 juill. 2022 à 11 h 48

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Quoting: JSEB93

He's an option that I have heard thrown around.

Personally I think it would be a very bad move. That contract is terrible. It's like Zucker 2.0

yeah his contract is a little “beefy” but he has a higher upside than Zucker and is a solid top 6 forward who adds a physical game that we simply do not have.

14 juill. 2022 à 11 h 59

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Quoting: hmcgs

yeah his contract is a little “beefy” but he has a higher upside than Zucker and is a solid top 6 forward who adds a physical game that we simply do not have.

Does he though? I mean he's already going to be 28 when the season starts, not sure there is any upside to players at that point. We traded for Zucker when he was 28 too and he had performed a lot better in the years before we got him than Anderson has.

If you're comparing to Zucker now then maybe - but even that's close. The Pens lack of physicality is a little overblown in my opinion - we've been top 10 in hits every year for the past like decade.

14 juill. 2022 à 12 h 12

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Quoting: JSEB93

I didn’t like the Zucker trade when it happened but I still think trading for Anderson now will turn out better than the Zucker trade, plus we’d be giving up less. And we might have high hit totals but who on our roster is dropping the gloves after Crosby gets hit dirty? Yeah we just got Archibald back who found his game in Edmonton, but he’s not a guaranteed NHL player. Anderson is like a Mack truck going downhill without breaks on the forcheck. He also can fight (16 career NHL fights). and he’s not just a goon he has a good shot and is a solid top 6 forward

14 juill. 2022 à 12 h 20

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Quoting: hmcgs

Not trying to be a dick, but that "who is going to fight after Crosby gets hit" is one of the oldest and most useless arguments ever. If he was on the team last year after that Trouba hit and he fights Trouba what happens - they just go to the box and the game carries on. Sid is still hurt, nothing changes. Having Anderson on the team will have absolutely zero effect on Crosby getting hit.

Yeah he might be good on the forecheck - but trading Marino to pay a guy 5.5mil for 5 years to score 35 points is not something I am interested in.

It's easy to say in hindsight it's better than the Zucker trade because of how unhealthy he's been. But he was better when we traded for him than Anderson is now - and even when he's on the ice now he has still been better than Anderson

14 juill. 2022 à 12 h 31

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Quoting: JSEB93

but yet teams that do good in the post season have grit guys… it’s not about changing what happened, in this example crosby getting hit, it’s about having somebody there that sticks up for your teammates and it also gives the team energy when you win a fight, it can swing momentum. and saying Jason Zucker right now is better than Anderson is absurd. and whatever you don’t want anderson, I see him as another option for us and we should keep all doors open. agree to disagree

14 juill. 2022 à 12 h 40

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Quoting: hmcgs

But that doesn't do anything then. Like cool yeah you stuck up for your teammate - he's still hurt.

How many fights were there in the postseason? I can't even remember one. How are the Pens any less gritty now than in 15-17? How are we any less gritty than the Avs or Lightning or Oilers?

Over the last 3 years Zucker has significantly better possession/advanced numbers and has scored points at the exact same rate - so I'm not sure how that's absurd.

I mean I agreed he's an option, but yeah I don't see how it's a good trade at all. Especially with Rakell and Rust already in his way. So he'd be on the 3rd line

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