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JT For Timo

Créé par: BlackhawksforLife
Publié: 2 juill. 2022 à 10 h 35
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Sharks de San JoseSharks de San Jose

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Meier, TimoSharks de San JoseLNH-5 967 742 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Sharks de San JoseSJS)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Miller, J.T.Canucks de VancouverLNH-5 221 774 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---010------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial5 667 500 $2137503515
Variation745 968 $000010
Final6 413 468 $ (↑)21375036 (↑)15000

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Miller, J.T.Canucks de VancouverLNH-5 221 774 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---010------
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Canucks de VancouverVAN)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Meier, TimoSharks de San JoseLNH-5 967 742 $011---0000--
Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Sharks de San JoseSJS)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 148 333 $1937543512
Variation-745 968 $0000-10
Final1 402 365 $ (↓)19375434 (↓)12000
Would both teams do this?
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2 juill. 2022 à 10 h 36
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If you don't think this is a fair deal, for which team and why? What would the other team have to give up for it to be even?
2 juill. 2022 à 11 h 20
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I don't think either team ever does this, but I think it's a harder no from Van than SJ.

From Van's perspective: Trading away Miller to most other markets, considering the starting price has been set since February, means a young roster player, a prospect with good potential and a 1st rounder, and it sounds like there will be a bidding war at the draft for Miller. You're only getting one of those pieces in Meier, and you're giving up draft capital to do it. Very few teams trade a near 99 point player with centre capability and a 2nd rounder for anything, let alone a more expensive, less consistent winger only 3 years younger that's also on an expiring contract. I like Meier as a player, he's a new age power forward, but this deal is a non starter.

From SJ's perspective: Meier is one of the few younger, high quality pieces on the roster that can transition a rebuilt roster and be a leader once contracts like Couture, Burns, Vlasic and Karlsson come off the books. You don't give that up to get older with where the franchise is at, even if it's acquiring a player like Miller. Plus, if stat trends are anything to be considered, it's going to be much more expensive to extend Miller than Meier, and if Miller falls off around 32-35 but he gets the 6-8 year contract he wants, SJ finds themselves in the same situation they are now, too much money committed to a window that's been slammed shut.
3 juill. 2022 à 15 h 49
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hard no from van. Miller is the better player imo, plus they have made it clear that the preferred return for miller is a 1st rounder, prospect, and a roster player preferably a RHD. It also makes no sense for either team as van’s hope is to “re tool” and fill the prospect pool. as for SJ if they ever do trade meier they could get a decent haul of younger players and picks
 
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