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Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 2 mai 2017
Publié: 2 mai 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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So first of all let me start by saying, I'm doubting the realism of this AGM. It kind of seems too perfect, which probably means I've overvalued Leafs players at some point, but anyways here I go.

The Trades:

PIT:

I have PIT winning the cup (I hope Crosby comes back and brings the Pens to glory again). They lose Bonino to FA, but are still looking to repeat. With this new whole they need a centerman that can put up points on the 3rd line and move up in case of injuries. There's no better than newly 50pt man Tyler Bozak. He has a history with Kessel to boot and he can play signficant minutes if injuries arise. With a 50% retention he's the perfect fit for a cup or bust season.

Coming back I have the 31st overall pick and Rights to Filip Gustavsson who was drafted in the late second round last year. I don't think this return is unlikely, as I'm comparing Hanzal's return of a 1st, a second and a 4th to Bozaks.

WSH:

Okay this was my trade that I think probably is a little lopsided but here's my logic. WAS faces major contractual issues with Oshie, Kuznetsov, Alzner, Williams etc being potential UFA's. In here I decided that they can't afford to reup Burakovsky and I offer them a plethora of cheap prospects that are for the most part NHL ready. Soshnikov and Leipsic are good prospects that bring some grit that I could see Trotz really liking. Lindberg is an organizational depth prospect to add value. Coming back we have a LW whose shot metrics suggest he's due for a breakout year. This trade relies on WAS deciding to resign their other players first, and potentially replacing Burakovsky with Vrana.

FLA:

Florida is stacked on defense, but struggles to score. Recently re-appointed GM Dale Tallon (who should have never been replaced) decides to make a move to bring them back to the playoffs. He's been quoated (link to article here:http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-arizona-coyotes-shane-doan-florida-panthers-jaromir-jagr/2017/05/02/) saying he really needs a natural goal scorer, and JVR is definitely that. He's traded along with a contract extension (that greatly benefits Florida as they benefit from no state tax). Coming back the Leafs is 23 year old rookie defenseman Matheson who scored 17 points this year. Also Florida only has 5 draft picks so they move back in this draft and get an extra 2nd rounder.

WIN:

Cheveldayoff decides he needs to trade Trouba before there's another nasty RFA negotiation. If his top need is a left handed defenseman than we send back Matheson. Matheson is extremely mobile, he's 6'2" and he's also EXPANSION EXEMPT, which considering he plays top 4 minutes is a HUGE bonus for them. We also send rookies Valiev (who could challenge for a roster spot on the Leafs this year) and Rychel and Johnson. They're not fantastic rookies but definitely B/B- quality, and we know that Winnipeg loves acquiring prospects.

ARI:

Computer GM see's analytics darling and sends almost nothing back, similar to Holland deal.

MTL:

Montreal also only has 5 picks so they move back as well and collect an extra 2nd.

Signings:

Leafs mostly stay away from FA again, however they sign Trevor Daley to a 1 year contract (to avoid a Robidas situation again) to play as a 5th defenseman.

They also add a really good backup in Kinkaid, who although is a little pricey is definitely worth it.

Since the Leafs move out 7 forwards in this scenario I have them signing some of their forward prospects to get them in the AHL developing.

Draft:

I have them selecting Timothy Liljegren whose fallen out of favour after being the consensus #2 in this draft at the 10 slot, and I have them selecting Erik Brannstrom who I read an article on (link here:http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2017/5/1/15443476/toronto-maple-leafs-entry-draft-target-swedish-defenceman-erik-brannstrom-2017)

Prospects:

Forwards:

The Leafs forward prospect cupboard looks less sexy with a huge amount either joining the NHL or being traded but there's still some hidden gems in there.
1.Jeremy Bracco
2. Carl Grundstrom
3. Adam Brooks
4. Miro Aaltonen
5. Dmytro Timashov

Defense:

The Leafs severely bolster their depth in the offseason, Leafs could end up having a very above average defense core in the future.
1. Timothy Liljegren
2. Travis Dermott
3. Andrew Nielsen
4. Calle Rosen
5. Erik Brannstrom

Goaltenders:

Who knows with goalies anymore? At least we have some good depth starting

1. Filip Gustavsson
2. Joseph Woll
3. Garrett Sparks
4. Kasimir Kaskisuo



I would really appreciate feedback granted its constructive and polite.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
52 900 000 $
31 700 000 $
2750 000 $
63 800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 800 000 $
Rosen, Calle
2925 000 $
13 000 000 $
Liljegren, Timothy
3894 167 $
Brannstrom, Erik
3894 167 $
Brooks, Adam
3894 167 $
Korostelev, Nikita
3680 000 $
Dzierkals, Martins
3680 000 $
21 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
    2017 31st overall pick
    Rights to Filip Gustavsson
    PIT
    1. Bozak, Tyler (2 100 000 $ retained)
    2.
    TOR
      Rights to RFA Andre Burakovsky
      3.
      TOR
      1. Matheson, Michael
      Détails additionnels:
      2017 10th overall pick
      FLA
      1. van Riemsdyk, James
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
      Détails additionnels:
      2017 17th overall pick
      4.
      5.
      TOR
      1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
      Détails additionnels:
      Pick Conditional on Marincin playing 25 NHL games this year
      6.
      TOR
        2017 23rd overall pick
        MTL
          2017 31st overall pick
          2017 2nd round pick
          7.
          Rachats de contrats
          Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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          2019
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          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          2376 000 000 $66 530 000 $5 370 000 $4 550 000 $9 470 000 $

          Formation

          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
          3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 2
          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
          C
          UFA - 2
          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
          AD
          UFA - 2
          2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
          AD, AG, C
          UFA - 1
          4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
          C
          UFA - 5
          2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 3
          1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 4
          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
          AD
          UFA - 1
          863 333 $863 333 $
          AD
          UFA - 2
          2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 3
          2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
          AG, C
          UFA - 2
          612 500 $612 500 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
          C, AD
          UFA - 1
          650 000 $650 000 $
          AD, C
          UFA - 1
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 5
          2 812 500 $2 812 500 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
          G
          M-NTC
          UFA - 4
          4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 2
          4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 7
          3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 3
          750 000 $750 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
          G
          UFA - 2
          Rosen, Calle
          925 000 $925 000 $
          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
          5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
          AG, AD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
          5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
          AD
          M-NTC, NMC
          UFA - 3

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          2 mai 2017 à 16 h 0
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          Too many trades, reworked way too much of the team. As well you won't get any cap relief from either play because you're not over the cap. Final note is that you pay a backup goalie almost $2M which is a gross overpayment.

          No team is going to make SIX trades in the off season.
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          2 mai 2017 à 16 h 2
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          Zero chance in hell that get's you Trouba Gardiner at least needs to be added to the deal.
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          And no way does Liljegren fall to #18 Detroit would take him at #9 way before that.
          2 mai 2017 à 16 h 6
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          Too many trades, reworked way too much of the team. As well you won't get any cap relief from either play because you're not over the cap. Final note is that you pay a backup goalie almost $2M which is a gross overpayment.

          No team is going to make SIX trades in the off season.


          Here's why I have a problem with your comment: You gave me 1 star based on the following merits:
          - I paid a REALLY GOOD BACKUP 1.75million, for comparison Chad Johnson made 1.7 - this is a dumb complaint on your end
          -You gave me crap for having 2 players on LTIR even when it doesn't affect my AGM AT ALL, literally add their 10+ million caps and I'm still below - DUMB complaint
          -You make it seem like I traded away the whole team, 1 trade is a simple moving up in the draft, one is moving a player for a potential 7th round pick, which leaves me with 4 other trades and seeing as this offseason features an expansion draft I don't think FOUR TRADES in an offseason is out of this world
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          And no way does Liljegren fall to #18 Detroit would take him at #9 way before that.


          I have him selected at #10, I'm not even sure if that's good enough but its definitely within reason
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          Zero chance in hell that get's you Trouba Gardiner at least needs to be added to the deal.


          Have you read anything on Matheson? He's 23, he's very mobile, he's 6'2", he plays top 4 minutes AND he's expansion exempt, I would think he fits the core of Winnipeg better than Gardiner and it also solves their expansion problem
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          And no way does Liljegren fall to #18 Detroit would take him at #9 way before that.


          I have him selected at #10, I'm not even sure if that's good enough but its definitely within reason


          I could see him around 10-13 maybe at best but doubt he would fall to 18 he would really have to fall out of favor to fall that low and with Heiskanen and Makar more then likely gone i could see Detroit taking a chance on him if he's still available at 9.
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          I have him selected at #10, I'm not even sure if that's good enough but its definitely within reason


          I could see him around 10-13 maybe at best but doubt he would fall to 18 he would really have to fall out of favor to fall that low and with Heiskanen and Makar more then likely gone i could see Detroit taking a chance on him if he's still available at 9.


          I don't think he'll be available at 18, that's why I had the Leafs move up to #10 in this AGM
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          Too many trades, reworked way too much of the team. As well you won't get any cap relief from either play because you're not over the cap. Final note is that you pay a backup goalie almost $2M which is a gross overpayment.

          No team is going to make SIX trades in the off season.


          Here's why I have a problem with your comment: You gave me 1 star based on the following merits:
          - I paid a REALLY GOOD BACKUP 1.75million, for comparison Chad Johnson made 1.7 - this is a dumb complaint on your end
          -You gave me crap for having 2 players on LTIR even when it doesn't affect my AGM AT ALL, literally add their 10+ million caps and I'm still below - DUMB complaint
          -You make it seem like I traded away the whole team, 1 trade is a simple moving up in the draft, one is moving a player for a potential 7th round pick, which leaves me with 4 other trades and seeing as this offseason features an expansion draft I don't think FOUR TRADES in an offseason is out of this world


          I don't get why people over pay backups, just for the sake of over paying. If he was good enough he would be a 1B starter, not a full time backup. You can get Curtis for $750K less and get the same production level. Remember his numbers are because of him playing with the Devils.

          Don't put them on LTIR because you skew your numbers, that's all. Makes it seem like you have tons of cap space.

          You trade a total of ELEVEN PLAYERS. That's a lot no matter what. No team trades a total of 11 players/prospects plus 3 picks in one off season. That would be a record.

          I doubt Daley is going to take a 1 year deal.
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          I don't get why people over pay backups, just for the sake of over paying. If he was good enough he would be a 1B starter, not a full time backup. You can get Curtis for $750K less and get the same production level. Remember his numbers are because of him playing with the Devils.

          Don't put them on LTIR because you skew your numbers, that's all. Makes it seem like you have tons of cap space.

          You trade a total of ELEVEN PLAYERS. That's a lot no matter what. No team trades a total of 11 players/prospects plus 3 picks in one off season. That would be a record.

          I doubt Daley is going to take a 1 year deal.



          Really? You think a backup who can play 20 games isn't important? That's 1/4 of the regular season? GM Treliving said on TSN radio this morning that Johnson basically saved their season.

          And technically I do have that cap space available if we need it

          Phaneuf trade was a 9 player trade so can't see why 11 is such a big deal, Marchenko is taken in draft, Marincin move is to clear roster spot but he could stay on the team if your buthurt about it, Leafs have unprecedented amount of NHL ready forwards so expect them to have to move a lot to get the value out

          Daley is 33 who only played 56 games this year, definitely not getting a long term deal if that's what your referring to.
          2 mai 2017 à 17 h 0
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          I don't get why people over pay backups, just for the sake of over paying. If he was good enough he would be a 1B starter, not a full time backup. You can get Curtis for $750K less and get the same production level. Remember his numbers are because of him playing with the Devils.

          Don't put them on LTIR because you skew your numbers, that's all. Makes it seem like you have tons of cap space.

          You trade a total of ELEVEN PLAYERS. That's a lot no matter what. No team trades a total of 11 players/prospects plus 3 picks in one off season. That would be a record.

          I doubt Daley is going to take a 1 year deal.



          Really? You think a backup who can play 20 games isn't important? That's 1/4 of the regular season? GM Treliving said on TSN radio this morning that Johnson basically saved their season.

          And technically I do have that cap space available if we need it

          Phaneuf trade was a 9 player trade so can't see why 11 is such a big deal, Marchenko is taken in draft, Marincin move is to clear roster spot but he could stay on the team if your buthurt about it, Leafs have unprecedented amount of NHL ready forwards so expect them to have to move a lot to get the value out

          Daley is 33 who only played 56 games this year, definitely not getting a long term deal if that's what your referring to.


          I'm not arguing that you have the cap space, just saying it is an unnecessary use of it.

          Tell me how many 9 player trades have been done since the installation of the cap. I think that ist he most.

          I think Daley will get 2 for sure without a problem. Maybe an option. He has history. It all depends on the amounts. I think Polak and Hunwick bring more to the table than Daley and both will come at significant reductions in cost.

          Remember, once Marner, Matthews and Nylander get their extensions you will have to get used to finding players on cheap contracts. May as well start it now instead of later.
           
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