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Créé par: Philly79
Équipe: 2022-23 Kings de Los Angeles
Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2022
Publié: 15 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
66 000 000 $
12 500 000 $
31 900 000 $
31 800 000 $
21 550 000 $
1874 125 $
1750 000 $
1874 125 $
Transactions
1.
LAK
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Walker, Sean (1 000 000 $ retained)
2.
ARI
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. Grundström, Carl
  3. Vilardi, Gabriel
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
idk if its a fair deal but I think so
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $76 554 167 $637 500 $3 412 500 $4 945 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance150 000 $$150K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Kings de Los Angeles
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance262 500 $$262K)
DG
RFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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820 000 $820 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 2

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15 avr. 2022 à 14 h 7
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Why is TO adding an asset here? Walker is likely the Kings 4RD now has never proven to be more than a bottom pair guy and is already what 27? He's a bubble player. Kerfoot is a highly valuable and versatile player. Even with retention, which only serves to make Walker a more viable 6/7 defenceman (Who is he taking out of TO's top 6 or top 7 next year?) Kerfoot is definitely worth more than this.
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15 avr. 2022 à 14 h 57
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Why is TO adding an asset here? Walker is likely the Kings 4RD now has never proven to be more than a bottom pair guy and is already what 27? He's a bubble player. Kerfoot is a highly valuable and versatile player. Even with retention, which only serves to make Walker a more viable 6/7 defenceman (Who is he taking out of TO's top 6 or top 7 next year?) Kerfoot is definitely worth more than this.


Walker is not a bubble player. He's a quality puck moving defenseman. I'm not going to go so far as to say he's a top four guy on a contender, but he's a solid #4/#5 option that can run a 2PP. Nick Jensen is a good comparable.

I'm not saying he deserves a 1st round pick in return or anything, but he's not replacement level.
15 avr. 2022 à 15 h 11
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Walker is not a bubble player. He's a quality puck moving defenseman. I'm not going to go so far as to say he's a top four guy on a contender, but he's a solid #4/#5 option that can run a 2PP. Nick Jensen is a good comparable.

I'm not saying he deserves a 1st round pick in return or anything, but he's not replacement level.


I’m sure he’s a fine 5D man, but the Leafs have Lily, Holl, Brodie, and (maybe) Lyubushkin who I would all take for next year over Walker on the right defence. Kerfoot is an asset they actually need, unless they get a different forward; to play all throughout the lineup. Walker is not a needed asset
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15 avr. 2022 à 15 h 15
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Walker is not a bubble player. He's a quality puck moving defenseman. I'm not going to go so far as to say he's a top four guy on a contender, but he's a solid #4/#5 option that can run a 2PP. Nick Jensen is a good comparable.

I'm not saying he deserves a 1st round pick in return or anything, but he's not replacement level.


He is on LA. He doesn't make the Leafs roster
15 avr. 2022 à 15 h 24
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He is on LA. He doesn't make the Leafs roster


LA's defense was just as good as Toronto's this season, even with all the injuries.
15 avr. 2022 à 15 h 58
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LA's defense was just as good as Toronto's this season, even with all the injuries.


The defence was never a problem it was the goaltending for a bit. And the style of play differs between the team. Either way Walker played 8 games and is 27. He wouldn't make the current leafs team. Next year I don't see them wanting Walker because he makes too much. Holl is just as good for less. Liljegren is better and will make less. Kerfoot is worth a sizeable group more than Walker
15 avr. 2022 à 16 h 9
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The defence was never a problem it was the goaltending for a bit. And the style of play differs between the team. Either way Walker played 8 games and is 27. He wouldn't make the current leafs team. Next year I don't see them wanting Walker because he makes too much. Holl is just as good for less. Liljegren is better and will make less. Kerfoot is worth a sizeable group more than Walker


Walker played 8 games because he tore his ACL and MCL in game 8 of the season, not due to some performance issues.

You can say that you don't want him because he's too old and/or expensive (I'd argue that he's a bargain for what he brings), but salary aside, he's better than both Holl and Liljegren.
15 avr. 2022 à 16 h 17
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Walker played 8 games because he tore his ACL and MCL in game 8 of the season, not due to some performance issues.

You can say that you don't want him because he's too old and/or expensive (I'd argue that he's a bargain for what he brings), but salary aside, he's better than both Holl and Liljegren.


So a guy who's never been able to prove he's a full time NHL player blows up his knee and somehow is still a top 4 Defenceman worth more than Kerfoot who is the same age has played more than double the games, is a good middle 6 player and can play all forward positions.
15 avr. 2022 à 16 h 30
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So a guy who's never been able to prove he's a full time NHL player blows up his knee and somehow is still a top 4 Defenceman worth more than Kerfoot who is the same age has played more than double the games, is a good middle 6 player and can play all forward positions.


Who hasn't proved he's a full-time NHL player? Before this season, he played every game he was healthy for the past two seasons and was rewarded with a multi-year $2.65M AAV contract that was a consensus steal when it was signed.

Los Angeles Kings signed Sean Walker (4 Years / $2,650,000 AAV)

I never said Walker was worth Kerfoot, only that he's not a "bubble player." He does play the more highly coveted RHD position though, which boosts his value on the trade market.
15 avr. 2022 à 16 h 51
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Who hasn't proved he's a full-time NHL player? Before this season, he played every game he was healthy for the past two seasons and was rewarded with a multi-year $2.65M AAV contract that was a consensus steal when it was signed.

Los Angeles Kings signed Sean Walker (4 Years / $2,650,000 AAV)

I never said Walker was worth Kerfoot, only that he's not a "bubble player." He does play the more highly coveted RHD position though, which boosts his value on the trade market.


That's wishful thinking.
15 avr. 2022 à 17 h 23
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That's wishful thinking.


What is wishful thinking? That Walker is a full-time NHL player? Apparently people on this site disagree with you, to the tune of 10:1 ratio.
15 avr. 2022 à 17 h 24
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What is wishful thinking? That Walker is a full-time NHL player? Apparently people on this site disagree with you, to the tune of 10:1 ratio.


Yeah and? According to those 10, Kerfoot is probably a cap dump. This site is loaded with fools
15 avr. 2022 à 17 h 29
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Yeah and? According to those 10, Kerfoot is probably a cap dump. This site is loaded with fools


You don't say. sarcasm
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15 avr. 2022 à 18 h 19
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You don't say. sarcasm


Walker isn't terrible but I also think calling him anything more than a depth player is a huge stretch.
15 avr. 2022 à 18 h 57
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Walker isn't terrible but I also think calling him anything more than a depth player is a huge stretch.


Like I said above, he's a quality #4/#5 defenseman on a contender. I never advocated putting him on the top pairing. He's defensively reliable puck-moving defenseman that excels at 5v5 hockey and is a good option for a PP2 unit.
15 avr. 2022 à 21 h 36
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Like I said above, he's a quality #4/#5 defenseman on a contender. I never advocated putting him on the top pairing. He's defensively reliable puck-moving defenseman that excels at 5v5 hockey and is a good option for a PP2 unit.


I would say he's 3rd pair at best in a contender.
15 avr. 2022 à 21 h 46
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I would say he's 3rd pair at best in a contender.


Possibly, but he's still significantly better than replacement level or "bubble."
15 avr. 2022 à 22 h 0
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Possibly, but he's still significantly better than replacement level or "bubble."


Yeah that was likely too harsh. Like he could very well be the best RD in Vancouver right now. But as a Leaf fan, I don't see him making the top 6. Especially not what we have now. And if we lose Lyubushkin in FA, there is Brodie, Holl and Liljegren on the Right side and Sandin, Muzzin and Rielly on the Left. Maybe Walker beats out Holl but maybe he doesn't Holl's underlying numbers are extremely good this season. The eye test sometimes shows some faults but he's definitely an NHL defenceman. So I guess I should be easier here. Walker is fine, but from the Leafs perspective Kerfoot holds more value. But after all this bull**** you have convinced me. Lol I could live with this.
16 avr. 2022 à 1 h 35
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Yeah that was likely too harsh. Like he could very well be the best RD in Vancouver right now. But as a Leaf fan, I don't see him making the top 6. Especially not what we have now. And if we lose Lyubushkin in FA, there is Brodie, Holl and Liljegren on the Right side and Sandin, Muzzin and Rielly on the Left. Maybe Walker beats out Holl but maybe he doesn't Holl's underlying numbers are extremely good this season. The eye test sometimes shows some faults but he's definitely an NHL defenceman. So I guess I should be easier here. Walker is fine, but from the Leafs perspective Kerfoot holds more value. But after all this bull**** you have convinced me. Lol I could live with this.


Mission accomplished. cool
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16 avr. 2022 à 8 h 17
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Mission accomplished. cool


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