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Somewhat realistic attempt at getting a 1-2 punch at C

Créé par: texus8
Équipe: 2017-18 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 25 avr. 2017
Publié: 25 avr. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
57 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
46 000 000 $
11 500 000 $
14 000 000 $
2750 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
    RFA Compensation
    CBJ
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
    2.
    MTL
    1. Duchene, Matt
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (LAK)
    COL
    1. Juulsen, Noah
    Détails additionnels:
    Rights to Galchenyuk
    Rights to Beaulieu
    3.
    MTL
      Expansion draft (Might also be Emelin, Davidson, or Benn though, in which case we need to work out a trade which would complicate things...)
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2018
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      Logo de WSH
      Logo de LAK
      Logo de MTL
      Logo de MTL
      2019
      Logo de MTL
      Logo de MTL
      Logo de MTL
      Logo de MTL
      Logo de MTL
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      Logo de MTL
      2020
      Logo de MTL
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      Logo de MTL
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2373 000 000 $70 202 850 $0 $1 062 500 $2 797 150 $

      Formation

      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
      7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 6
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      AD
      UFA - 5
      839 166 $839 166 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
      AD, C
      UFA - 2
      3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 4
      1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 2
      912 500 $912 500 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 5
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
      AD, C
      UFA - 1
      1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
      C, AD
      UFA - 1
      950 000 $950 000 $
      C, AG
      UFA - 1
      750 000 $750 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      DG/DD
      UFA - 3
      7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
      DD
      UFA - 9
      6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA
      5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
      DD
      NMC
      UFA - 4
      1 062 500 $1 062 500 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      2 982 375 $2 982 375 $
      DG
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
      DG/DD
      UFA - 2
      1 425 000 $1 425 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1

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      26 avr. 2017 à 0 h 22
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      Interesting...

      UFA and RFA's numbers looks pretty similar to what I have in mind, although I think you might be able to save a few bucks on Ott, who I would also be tempted to bring back.

      Question: what makes you go for Wennberg ahead of guys like Johansen, Kuznetsov, Granlund or Draisaitl ?
      No saying it's a bad choice, just wondering what ultimately made you go for him.
      26 avr. 2017 à 10 h 21
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      Once again no Sergachev no Duchene.
      26 avr. 2017 à 10 h 23
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      Once again no Sergachev no Duchene.


      When did Sakic tip you off?
      26 avr. 2017 à 13 h 4
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      Once again no Sergachev no Duchene.


      Sakic is not getting Sergachev, Chabot, or Hanifin for that matter, for Duchene. So I guess he can stay in Colorado and keep playing as a third line winger making 6m lol wink
      26 avr. 2017 à 13 h 12
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      Interesting...

      UFA and RFA's numbers looks pretty similar to what I have in mind, although I think you might be able to save a few bucks on Ott, who I would also be tempted to bring back.

      Question: what makes you go for Wennberg ahead of guys like Johansen, Kuznetsov, Granlund or Draisaitl ?
      No saying it's a bad choice, just wondering what ultimately made you go for him.


      To be honest I haven't looked too closely at those other teams' cap situations, and I saw someone mention on here how tight CBJ was to the cap next season so I wanted to see how Wennberg could fit on this roster. I think in that list Draisaitl would be my top choice, but from what I can tell Edmonton is in a pretty good spot with their cap and would be able to match.

      I think Wennberg is a fantastic player too though, already playing 18-19 min as a 22 year old and maintaining a good +/- and point totals. I almost get Backstrom vibes from him sometimes with the way he passes the puck (not quite as good obviously lol but similar styles), and top prospects coming from the SHL are usually very complete players. I think he would be a really good fit under Julien, and imagine what he could do with Radulov and Pacioretty on his wings, it would be fun to watch.
      26 avr. 2017 à 14 h 33
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      Quoting: Larkinisking
      Once again no Sergachev no Duchene.


      Sakic is not getting Sergachev, Chabot, or Hanifin for that matter, for Duchene. So I guess he can stay in Colorado and keep playing as a third line winger making 6m lol wink


      well Lebrun just crapped all over your hot take here, saying today that the consensus is that Dutch is an excellent excellent player and this years total do not reflect him as a player so there are no reservations who would be trading for him.

      Enjoy not having a 1st or 2nd line C then. Danault in your Top 6 again will bring the same sort of results for an aging roster
      26 avr. 2017 à 15 h 4
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      well Lebrun just crapped all over your hot take here, saying today that the consensus is that Dutch is an excellent excellent player and this years total do not reflect him as a player so there are no reservations who would be trading for him.

      Enjoy not having a 1st or 2nd line C then. Danault in your Top 6 again will bring the same sort of results for an aging roster


      There are other options like offer sheets or maybe even KHL players for the Habs, it's not great but it's not like Duchene is the end all be all either. And of course he's a better player than he showed this season, you don't have to be a genius to figure that one out. But if he's a perfect amazing player then the Avs wouldn't be openly shopping him. They obviously have some issues with either his on-ice or off-ice, and he doesn't seem to fit on their team anymore. I would also say that most analysts, like Pierre McGuire, would agree that he's not a stud #1 C, and so you're not gonna give up a 19 year old potential franchise #1 D who will play 25-30 minutes a game, for a player like Duchene. Not to mention he's 26 and only 2 years away from free agency so from a contract point of view that trade doesn't make sense.

      Let's agree to revisit this after he moves lol, and we'll see who was right.
      26 avr. 2017 à 16 h 2
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      There are other options like offer sheets or maybe even KHL players for the Habs, it's not great but it's not like Duchene is the end all be all either. And of course he's a better player than he showed this season, you don't have to be a genius to figure that one out. But if he's a perfect amazing player then the Avs wouldn't be openly shopping him. They obviously have some issues with either his on-ice or off-ice, and he doesn't seem to fit on their team anymore. I would also say that most analysts, like Pierre McGuire, would agree that he's not a stud #1 C, and so you're not gonna give up a 19 year old potential franchise #1 D who will play 25-30 minutes a game, for a player like Duchene. Not to mention he's 26 and only 2 years away from free agency so from a contract point of view that trade doesn't make sense.

      Let's agree to revisit this after he moves lol, and we'll see who was right.


      Avs need to get better on D and moving him is realyl the only option to do that. I dont want to see him go but I understand why he will be moved.
      My point is that hes not a 3rd line Winger as you mentioned, even as a joke, to think avs will move him for pennies on the dollar wont happen.

      Teams who want to win now bc their team is in that window of an older roster will want to add Duchene. He is 26, not some 30 year old rental. You can sitll have this guy for 8-10 more years on your team and be a product part of it. I just never really get the stud 19-20 year old arguement when it comes to prospects. Should the Habs move Sergechev, no bc he probably will be good down the line, but he has also never played a game of Pro hockey yet, for all we know he could end up a tire fire once playing pro hockey. There is a gamble there, for both sides since its a very big unknown until they have 100 games of pro hockey under their belts.

      It seems like every teams fan bases thinks they have the next NHL D stud currently. I dont think there are going to be 10-12 future Norris winning stud Dman all coming in at the same time. Some will be good to average Dman, a few might be exceptional. If your team has achance to win the cup now in the next year or 2 instead of waiting 5-6 years down the line when a guy could be a Norris stud, maybe its worth it in the end to take a run at Dutch if you can get that cup
       
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