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Créé par: LetsGoFlames
Publié: 16 févr. 2022 à 12 h 33
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 40/200 (20%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoAvalanche du Colorado

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 1 475 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: -516 667 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Jost, TysonAvalanche du ColoradoLNH-2 000 000 $111---0000--
Byram, BowenExempté du ballottageAvalanche du ColoradoLNH-894 167 $111---0000--
Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoCOL)---001------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoCOL)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Giroux, ClaudeFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH45%4 551 250 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 991 667 $2245593610
Variation-1 657 083 $-1-1-10-1-1
Final334 584 $ (↓)21 (↓)44 (↓)58 (↓)35 (↓)9 (↓)000

Logo de Flyers de PhiladelphieFlyers de Philadelphie

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 10 583 333 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 7 169 813 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Giroux, ClaudeFlyers de PhiladelphieLNH45%4 551 250 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Jost, TysonAvalanche du ColoradoLNH-2 000 000 $111---0000--
Byram, BowenExempté du ballottageAvalanche du ColoradoLNH-894 167 $111---0000--
Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoCOL)---001------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoCOL)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial3 413 520 $2349703412
Variation1 657 083 $111011
Final5 070 603 $ (↑)24 (↑)50 (↑)71 (↑)35 (↑)13 (↑)000
16 févr. 2022 à 13 h 4
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Usually I'd say a first for Giroux, but in this case I believe Philly would take it. Not sure COL would be willing to offer up Byram though.
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16 févr. 2022 à 13 h 26
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Quoting: Dutchies
Usually I'd say a first for Giroux, but in this case I believe Philly would take it. Not sure COL would be willing to offer up Byram though.


@LetsGoFlames Byram and Newhook are not on the table. Joe laughs and hangs up at this.
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16 févr. 2022 à 13 h 31
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Done !
16 févr. 2022 à 13 h 47
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Quoting: Foppa21
LetsGoFlames Byram and Newhook are not on the table. Joe laughs and hangs up at this.


Here's the reality check. Colorado has come into the playoffs the last 2 years as Stanley Cup Finalist, correct? Have they been there, answer NO! Do they want to be there and win, answer Yes! The question Joe has to ask himself is do I save a piece (Newhook, Byram, etc) and possibly not get there again or do I sacrifice and IF I win it was worth it? I dont follow COL every game is Giroux going to get them there or someone else only Joe can answer that and the fans will have to live with it.
16 févr. 2022 à 13 h 54
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Here's the reality check. Colorado has come into the playoffs the last 2 years as Stanley Cup Finalist, correct? Have they been there, answer NO! Do they want to be there and win, answer Yes! The question Joe has to ask himself is do I save a piece (Newhook, Byram, etc) and possibly not get there again or do I sacrifice and IF I win it was worth it? I dont follow COL every game is Giroux going to get them there or someone else only Joe can answer that and the fans will have to live with it.


Reality check for you. Toffoli, signed for another two years (term = more value), got what amounts to two late 2nds, a late 1st, and a fifth. Giroux is no doubt the better player, but he's a rental. Name the last time a top-5 draft pick two years into his career was traded for a rental at the deadline. Can you?

Yes, the Avs have been Stanley Cup favorites for the past two years, but news flash, wining the cup is pretty damn difficult. There are no guarantees. Injuries (1st year they were favorites) can derail a team, as can a lack of experience playing playoff hockey (Girard last year). There's every reason to go for it this year with the Avs, but that doesn't mean mortgaging your potential top-4 defenseman or your 2C of the future. So yes, they need to sacrifice a prospect or two, but it won't be either of Newhook or Byram. Full stop. Barron, Helleson, Olausson, or Behrens? They'll definitely look at it.
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16 févr. 2022 à 14 h 59
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Quoting: Foppa21
Reality check for you. Toffoli, signed for another two years (term = more value), got what amounts to two late 2nds, a late 1st, and a fifth. Giroux is no doubt the better player, but he's a rental. Name the last time a top-5 draft pick two years into his career was traded for a rental at the deadline. Can you?

Yes, the Avs have been Stanley Cup favorites for the past two years, but news flash, wining the cup is pretty damn difficult. There are no guarantees. Injuries (1st year they were favorites) can derail a team, as can a lack of experience playing playoff hockey (Girard last year). There's every reason to go for it this year with the Avs, but that doesn't mean mortgaging your potential top-4 defenseman or your 2C of the future. So yes, they need to sacrifice a prospect or two, but it won't be either of Newhook or Byram. Full stop. Barron, Helleson, Olausson, or Behrens? They'll definitely look at it.


The reality check for you or any of us fans is we are not the GM, and that is the only person (and ownership) that matters. I am not saying they will do this but I bet you its not off the table.
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16 févr. 2022 à 15 h 56
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Colorado doesn't want to move Byram, and I wouldn't want him anyways.
Already took a chance on a guy with concussion issues, don't want to take that risk again
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16 févr. 2022 à 19 h 36
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Joe Sakic has said Bo Byram and Alex Newhook aren't on the table! Just stop with putting them in deals they aren't being traded!
Shane Bowers
Martin kaut
Tyson jost
JT Compher
Sampo Ranta
Sean Behrens
Those are the most likely prospects/roster players to be traded.

Justin Barron
O. Olausson
Drew Helleson
Are the next 3 guys that are unlikely to be moved for a rental but think it's possible 1 of them is moved... Olausson probably most unlikely to be moved of the 3.
17 févr. 2022 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: DavidNola985

Justin Barron
O. Olausson
Drew Helleson
Are the next 3 guys that are unlikely to be moved for a rental but think it's possible 1 of them is moved... Olausson probably most unlikely to be moved of the 3.


Only way I think PHI does it without one of these 3 included is if there's 2 1sts (mayyybe a 1st and 2nd) coming back or Avs are the only team G will waive his NMC for and it forces their hand.
19 févr. 2022 à 11 h 13
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Quoting: twf16
Only way I think PHI does it without one of these 3 included is if there's 2 1sts (mayyybe a 1st and 2nd) coming back or Avs are the only team G will waive his NMC for and it forces their hand.


Quoting: DavidNola985
Joe Sakic has said Bo Byram and Alex Newhook aren't on the table! Just stop with putting them in deals they aren't being traded!
Shane Bowers
Martin kaut
Tyson jost
JT Compher
Sampo Ranta
Sean Behrens
Those are the most likely prospects/roster players to be traded.

Justin Barron
O. Olausson
Drew Helleson
Are the next 3 guys that are unlikely to be moved for a rental but think it's possible 1 of them is moved... Olausson probably most unlikely to be moved of the 3.


Quoting: Xertalz
Colorado doesn't want to move Byram, and I wouldn't want him anyways.
Already took a chance on a guy with concussion issues, don't want to take that risk again


Quoting: MANX
The reality check for you or any of us fans is we are not the GM, and that is the only person (and ownership) that matters. I am not saying they will do this but I bet you its not off the table.


Quoting: Foppa21
Reality check for you. Toffoli, signed for another two years (term = more value), got what amounts to two late 2nds, a late 1st, and a fifth. Giroux is no doubt the better player, but he's a rental. Name the last time a top-5 draft pick two years into his career was traded for a rental at the deadline. Can you?

Yes, the Avs have been Stanley Cup favorites for the past two years, but news flash, wining the cup is pretty damn difficult. There are no guarantees. Injuries (1st year they were favorites) can derail a team, as can a lack of experience playing playoff hockey (Girard last year). There's every reason to go for it this year with the Avs, but that doesn't mean mortgaging your potential top-4 defenseman or your 2C of the future. So yes, they need to sacrifice a prospect or two, but it won't be either of Newhook or Byram. Full stop. Barron, Helleson, Olausson, or Behrens? They'll definitely look at it.


Quoting: MANX
Here's the reality check. Colorado has come into the playoffs the last 2 years as Stanley Cup Finalist, correct? Have they been there, answer NO! Do they want to be there and win, answer Yes! The question Joe has to ask himself is do I save a piece (Newhook, Byram, etc) and possibly not get there again or do I sacrifice and IF I win it was worth it? I dont follow COL every game is Giroux going to get them there or someone else only Joe can answer that and the fans will have to live with it.


Quoting: MANX
Done !


Quoting: Foppa21
@LetsGoFlames Byram and Newhook are not on the table. Joe laughs and hangs up at this.


Quoting: Dutchies
Usually I'd say a first for Giroux, but in this case I believe Philly would take it. Not sure COL would be willing to offer up Byram though.


Thank God none of us were actual GM’s
 
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