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MapleBoeser

Créé par: syfygy
Publié: 14 févr. 2022 à 22 h 3
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 74/200 (37%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a été refusée, car une des équipes excède le plafond salarial

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Ritchie, NickMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-508 750 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Boeser, BrockCanucks de VancouverLNH50%1 086 875 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial203 230 $214568358
Variation-578 125 $100-1-10
Final-374 895 $ (↓)22 (↑)45682 (↓)4 (↓)8000

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 6 112 500 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 4 012 500 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Boeser, BrockCanucks de VancouverLNH50%2 937 500 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Ritchie, NickMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---100------
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoTOR)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 100 000 $2147673511
Variation4 312 500 $-100110
Final6 412 500 $ (↑)20 (↓)47674 (↑)6 (↑)11000
14 févr. 2022 à 22 h 9
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Sorry once you added Ritchei ir is a no
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14 févr. 2022 à 22 h 45
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Sorry once you added Ritchei ir is a no


No way the Leafs would want to add Boeser though. He is the last thing they need.
15 févr. 2022 à 0 h 21
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No way the Leafs would want to add Boeser though. He is the last thing they need.


If this trade had the 2 extra 1sts and Robertson + another prospect like it should have, then I could understand you being annoyed. But come on. You actually think Toronto would not slam dunk getting Boeser for 20% of his value? That 2nd is just to offload Ritchie.
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15 févr. 2022 à 0 h 25
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No thanks from Vancouver. Leafs can't do this cap-wise.
15 févr. 2022 à 4 h 26
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Effectively you are saying Boeser for the leafs first. Since that second is to take Richies contract.

You would have to add the likes of Robertson or make it 2 first and like Kerfoot.

also makes no sense for the Leafs to want Boeser, miller I can see. Since he'd provide A TON more for the return.
15 févr. 2022 à 10 h 38
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If this trade had the 2 extra 1sts and Robertson + another prospect like it should have, then I could understand you being annoyed. But come on. You actually think Toronto would not slam dunk getting Boeser for 20% of his value? That 2nd is just to offload Ritchie.


2 extra firsts, Robertson +? Umm no. Leafs are dumb but nobody will give that. My point, though was that he is not what they need to add. They need size and defence, besides how could they handle adding that much salary?
15 févr. 2022 à 18 h 19
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2 extra firsts, Robertson +? Umm no. Leafs are dumb but nobody will give that. My point, though was that he is not what they need to add. They need size and defence, besides how could they handle adding that much salary?


Boeser is worth three pieces.

Eating Ritchie is worth one piece also. My point was that if you wanted to justify saying no way, it would have to be some pile like that.

You saying no to your team hijacking the Canucks with a deal like the offered one isn't reasonable. Even if Brock isn't what you need. You could just flip him for what you want.
15 févr. 2022 à 18 h 29
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Boeser is worth three pieces.

Eating Ritchie is worth one piece also. My point was that if you wanted to justify saying no way, it would have to be some pile like that.

You saying no to your team hijacking the Canucks with a deal like the offered one isn't reasonable. Even if Brock isn't what you need. You could just flip him for what you want.


Again my point was they wouldn't trade for him and there are ways to get rid of Ritchie. 3 pieces maybe? But your idea of 2 firsts and our top prospect is ridiculous.
15 févr. 2022 à 19 h 11
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Again my point was they wouldn't trade for him and there are ways to get rid of Ritchie. 3 pieces maybe? But your idea of 2 firsts and our top prospect is ridiculous.


Robertson is like 4th on your depth charts now with his serious injury issues.

If this was Robertson from year 1 I would probably agree but I certainly think that's roughly the price of a top line (second line on TO) player with team rights.
15 févr. 2022 à 19 h 25
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Robertson is like 4th on your depth charts now with his serious injury issues.

If this was Robertson from year 1 I would probably agree but I certainly think that's roughly the price of a top line (second line on TO) player with team rights.


No he is still one of the top. People say Niemela, Knies etc but have no real clue. So like you said second line on TO, should they spend the assrts and cash for that when they need to.focus on D? Muzz and Holl look terrible and there is no defensive depth after them. That type of player is not on their radar at all.
15 févr. 2022 à 20 h 49
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No he is still one of the top. People say Niemela, Knies etc but have no real clue. So like you said second line on TO, should they spend the assrts and cash for that when they need to.focus on D? Muzz and Holl look terrible and there is no defensive depth after them. That type of player is not on their radar at all.


Once again I'm not saying Boeser fills a need. I'm saying the offer posted is so ridiculously undervalued that you would have to say yes regardless and then reevaluate.
15 févr. 2022 à 21 h 9
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Once again I'm not saying Boeser fills a need. I'm saying the offer posted is so ridiculously undervalued that you would have to say yes regardless and then reevaluate.


Well I guess we disagree, I would spend all my time looking for a good dman and other make a trade to make a trade and then reevualate later...especially if the first is in play.
15 févr. 2022 à 23 h 56
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Well I guess we disagree, I would spend all my time looking for a good dman and other make a trade to make a trade and then reevualate later...especially if the first is in play.


We're not even talking about the same thing. It's kinda ridiculous.

You want a D, yeah I know. so what's easier. Trying to pile Ritchie and two picks, or say Boeser for a D man and picks.

If this deal was offered to you EVEN IF the ONLY GOAL was a D man, you do this and now you have better leverage to get that D.

Isn't close.
16 févr. 2022 à 9 h 7
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We're not even talking about the same thing. It's kinda ridiculous.

You want a D, yeah I know. so what's easier. Trying to pile Ritchie and two picks, or say Boeser for a D man and picks.

If this deal was offered to you EVEN IF the ONLY GOAL was a D man, you do this and now you have better leverage to get that D.

Isn't close.


Sigh, no we're not talking about the same thing and yes it is ridiculous. My very first reply was that he does not fill a need. That was my point and my only point.

You came in an said Robertson and 2 extra firsts which I said is ridiculous and it is. I never commented on doing the trade and then flipping, I have never once commented on it. I am not sure why you are going on about that. Would I take a risk on that? I dunno but would try to trade for a d without flipping players because there is always a risk that you could lose out and then be stuck with another high priced player that doesn't help and again no first round pick.
 
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