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Créé par: TraeYoung

Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 2 févr. 2022

Publié: 2 févr. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

This trade breaks down as:

McCann for a 2022 1st and Danton Heinen (Solid depth scoring option, could break out)
Chris Driedger for a 2023 3rd/2nd and Casey DeSmith (Salary cap dump and pending UFA and a new goalie option for a weak goaltending team)
Retained salary for Tristan Broz (2021 2nd round pick from the University of Minnesota). Could add more.

For the Kraken, this is a trade for a prospect and draft capital as they need to not only add quality but increase the quantity of prospects in their organization. McCann could be a rough RFA to sign and they can use the cap space to go in whatever direction they desire.

For the Penguins, this trade is made with the hope that you do not need the Kraken to retain salary of Zucker is out til the playoffs. Right now, he has an undisclosed injury and is out long-term. If you do have to retain salary then the price could be even more than I have here. McCann is a familiar player and Driedger is a backup goalie who has a higher WAR then one would think. He has shown potential as a backup and wouldn’t hurt compared to DeSmith, especially if his salary was retained. The lines are based on being fully healthy and shaking things up due to Kapanens lack of success currently.

Be nice, we all think we know what’s fair and what teams do and don’t want but we are all as clueless as the next armchair GM ;)

Thanks for taking your time to read this, folks!

Transactions

PIT

Driedger, Chris (1 750 000 $ retained)
McCann, Jared (1 470 000 $ retained)

SEA

Broz, Tristan [Liste de réserve]
DeSmith, Casey
Heinen, Danton
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

The 2023 3rd round pick (PIT) becomes a 2022 2nd round pick if the Penguins win the Cup in 2022 or 2023 or re-sign Jared McCann.

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 166 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	79 998 206 $	0 $	0 $	1 501 794 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
McCann, Jared 1 470 000 $1 470 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Carter, Jeff 2 636 364 $2 636 364 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Rodrigues, Evan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 1
McGinn, Brock 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4		Aston-Reese, Zach 1 725 000 $1 725 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
	Blueger, Teddy 2 200 000 $2 200 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Jarry, Tristan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 2
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 4	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 6
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 5	Ruhwedel, Chad 750 000 $750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Driedger, Chris 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Boyle, Brian 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1
Friedman, Mark 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Simon, Dominik 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA - 1
O'Connor, Drew 925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (850 000 $$850K) AG UFA - 1
Riikola, Juuso 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ (25 000 $$25K25 000 $$25K) DG UFA - 1
Zohorna, Radim 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, AD UFA - 2
Domingue, Louis 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 1

2 févr. 2022 à 22 h 33

pharrow

Banni

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just what they need, another forward who can't score a goal in a 40 game stretch. They moved him out for a reason.

I love how people on here want to run out Kap but bring in McCann. Just insane.

2 févr. 2022 à 22 h 43

TraeYoung

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Trae Young

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Quoting: pharrow

just what they need, another forward who can't score a goal in a 40 game stretch. They moved him out for a reason.

I love how people on here want to run out Kap but bring in McCann. Just insane.

I’m not running Kap out at all. I think there’s potential there with him still. McCann is a streaky scorer, sure, but he’s been good this season and showed that he could play in a top 6 role in both Pittsburgh and Seattle. There’s something to say about chemistry and this is a locker room that I wouldn’t break up too hard so adding in McCann, who can be a game changer when he’s on, is worth it in my opinion. I appreciate the comment and feedback btw

2 févr. 2022 à 22 h 51

pharrow

Banni

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Quoting: TraeYoung

that's not directed at your post here.
It's a comment in general in pens fans thinking. Post after post of running Kap out, and multiple posts on here about bringing McCann back.

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2 févr. 2022 à 23 h 1

TraeYoung

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Quoting: pharrow

that's not directed at your post here.
It's a comment in general in pens fans thinking. Post after post of running Kap out, and multiple posts on here about bringing McCann back.

That’s fair. My apologies. Kapanen is young and has time to grow. Guys go through slumps and a player as talented as he is will break through at some point. It’s hard for a contender to wait for that but there’s not many other options in this flat cap world. Same goes for Zucker. He can pop off at any moment and I don’t love how either of them are deployed in the lineups this year.

2 févr. 2022 à 23 h 52

Skyraider112

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Imagine not protecting McCann....

2 févr. 2022 à 23 h 56

Pens2000

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Quoting: pharrow

just what they need, another forward who can't score a goal in a 40 game stretch. They moved him out for a reason.

I love how people on here want to run out Kap but bring in McCann. Just insane.

Mccann is better than kapanen. He brings the energy and speed aspect that kapanen does. And he scores at a FAR better rate than kapanen playing with lesser players

3 févr. 2022 à 0 h 32

TraeYoung

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Quoting: Skyraider112

Imagine not protecting McCann....

Expansions drafts are tough and quite frankly, Hallander is a solid prospect that I’ve enjoyed watching since his draft year. I didn’t hate the idea of losing McCann. It sucks but that’s the nature of the game and it allowed a guy like ERod to step up. It is what it is, can’t dwell on it too much

3 févr. 2022 à 8 h 47

igbpv

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Quoting: Skyraider112

Imagine not protecting McCann....

I know, crazy Toronto didn't

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3 févr. 2022 à 16 h 48

pharrow

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Quoting: Pens2000

Mccann is better than kapanen. He brings the energy and speed aspect that kapanen does. And he scores at a FAR better rate than kapanen playing with lesser players

yeah sure thing, I remember how the penguins could always count on McCann for goals, it was like every 3 games almost like clockwork. Never a dry spell ever!

3 févr. 2022 à 23 h 40

#10

Pens2000

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Quoting: pharrow

yeah sure thing, I remember how the penguins could always count on McCann for goals, it was like every 3 games almost like clockwork. Never a dry spell ever!

McCann has 19 or 20 games in 40 games. Kapanen isn’t even close to that. Check the underlying numbers too

4 févr. 2022 à 14 h 24

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pharrow

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Quoting: Pens2000

McCann has 19 or 20 games in 40 games. Kapanen isn’t even close to that. Check the underlying numbers too

McCann plays on a team with no other real options too. It does take away from the fact of what McCann actually DID as a penguin now does it?

5 févr. 2022 à 11 h 8

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Pens2000

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Quoting: pharrow

McCann plays on a team with no other real options too. It does take away from the fact of what McCann actually DID as a penguin now does it?

bottom line is kapanen isn't helping this team win with their current core. he's played with every center the pens have and it hasn't worked out. an offszn move will look increasingly likely if he plays like this

5 févr. 2022 à 12 h 4

#13

pharrow

Banni

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Quoting: Pens2000

20 goals in 85 games in the regular season for 3.2 million.
Exactly what are you expecting for that kind of cap hit.
Here is the truth, Kap is a good affordable role player, who won't be moved due to the fact that he's not only very affordable for his production, but he is young and still has potential to bust out.
The grass is not always greener on the other side.

McCann on the other hand, that you seem obsessed with, went on 40 games streaks where he did nothing and you think somehow he's a better player? I'm not sure how you work that out.

5 févr. 2022 à 14 h 25

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Pens2000

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Quoting: pharrow

they gave up a first for kapanen!! he hasn't done much to help this team right now and thats a fact. kapanen isn't expected to be the best player on this team but he is just not contributing right now and u cant tell me u watch the games and believe he is actually contributing. they've played some weak teams recently and he didn't record a point

5 févr. 2022 à 14 h 53

#15

pharrow

Banni

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Quoting: Pens2000

exactly why do you think a mid to late round 1st is going to generate more than a 20 goals per season player?
It's not. Matter of fact that is what one should expect to pay for a young, controlled, good contracted, 20 goal scorer. Go ask any team that has one if they are willing to give up that kind of player for anything less. I can tell you now, they aren't.
Let me know when he's gone 40 goals without a goal. Fact is he's fine. But you're hell bent on getting rid of him for basically nothing. But yet somehow think McCann who had 2 and a half years in pit did no better, and simply disappeared in the playoffs.
I mean honestly, in 6 playoff games last year he put up more goals and the same amount of points as McCann did in 12.
But lets chase him out for a guy who was ragged on for being a magician for his great disappearing acts.

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