Much worse defenceman are getting talked about for 1st rounders but Holl is worth a 5th. This site sucks

Well he isn't worth a 1st, 2nd, or probably not even a 3rd.

But Chiarot is worth a 1st. Holl is definitely better. Mayfield, worth a 1st, Holl is better. The list is long.

well I don't think Charoit or Mayfield are worth a top 3 rd pick. Holl is a pylon

Holl is not better, not even close. Chariot is a solid 3/4 guy, Holl is an okay 6/7th

He is a far better skater than either Chiarot or Mayfield who are in fact pylons.

Holl has been a top 4 player on a top 5 defensive team for like a year going. Just disrespect

Doesn't change the fact that Holl isn't worth a 1st or 2nd. Holl only looks good because of the team in front of him and Jack Campbell. At least Chiarot and Mayfield played a big part in their teams playoff runs. Can't say the same for Holl

All you can say about those guys is they were part of a playoff run. This season shows how irrelevant Chiarot was to that. Petry starts his decline with a nose dive and no price to bail you out and it's the worst defence in the league. Bar none, the worst there is. Yeah Chiarot is a difference maker. And Mayfield has been on the ice for over a quarter of his team's goals against this season. Yeah huge players, making the difference all the time. Holl has worked well with Muzzin and despite a couple rough patches they are 6th overall defensively this season, but tell me how a integral part to the 6th best team is worth less than a guy getting obliterated this season.

Would it make your tears go away if I traded Holl away for a 1st? ok let me fix that for you so you can sleep tight tonight

I don't care what you do, I don't think he's worth a 1st. But he's undoubtedly better than Chiarot who is routinely thrown around for a 1st +. Why? Because this site is ridiculous.

Just let people enjoy making teams without you crying. If you hate this site this much then just log off of it. Goodbye son

Yup, this isn't surprising. Someone disagrees with you, so you lash out and claim the other side is weak and crying and then act dismissive all so you feel good about losing an argument. The absolute definition of fragile.

awwww muffin

He is a sensitive one. I am going to assume your muffin comment is supposed to make me feel like less of man? You must be another internet tough guy. Going to tell me how to be tough like real men.