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Créé par: gary_bettman
Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 8 déc. 2021
Publié: 8 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $63 702 863 $0 $295 000 $17 797 137 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 6
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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500 000 $500 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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1 025 000 $1 025 000 $
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UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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RFA - 1
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783 333 $783 333 $
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UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
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UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 1
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 175 000 $2 175 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
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UFA - 2
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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796 667 $796 667 $
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UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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19 déc. 2021 à 20 h 8
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Quoting: SharksMafia
you have to look at both though. guys like Kaprizov and Panarin (who, don't get me wrong, are insane players) who were rookies putting up a ppg in their first season would have had a lot more value if they were doing that at 18 instead of 23+. it would be dumb not to look at age.

another example would be Lafreniere. He has 29 points in 86 career games which is mediocre at best. If he was doing that at 35, it's not a guarantee he would even be in the league. He's 20 years old, though, which makes him a potential star winger. you have to take age into consideration.


cant tell me Laffy's value hasnt plummeted either though. his comparables all year were mcdavid, crosby, and at worst huberdeau. He definitely isnt mcdavid or crosby. and huberdeau had a pretty solid 19yo campaign. had the sophomore slump then has been a really quality player since. Am i probably wrong about it yeah, is part of the issue the rangers... maybe. But looking at the actual on ice product the kid hasnt looked any better than alex texier. he was 235th in league history of 19 year olds that played based on points per game slightly ahead of guys like josh bailey, bo horvat, and anthony beauvillier. using his age 20 season hes 808th tied with cody eakin, and slightly ahead of teuvo teravainen (rookie year on stacked chicago team), curtis lazar, emerson etem, cole caufield (lol), and chuck kobasew... using basic projection models its not looking good for the kid. IF he picks it up... he will be regaining lost value.

not sure of many players that played 200+ games in the league and then exploded in his mid 20s. marchand is really the only guy of recent memory where he went from a mid tier player to elite almost overnight.

The difference between players like kaprizov and panarin to chytil are both guys played phenominally in KHL. They were already proven offensive threats overseas. Kaprizov at 18 in khl had 27 in 53 and then at 19 had 42 in 49 and followed that up with 40 in 46 at age 20. Panarin at 18 played 20 khl games and had 9 points, at 19 he had 21 in 40 and at 20 he had 31 in 50. he didnt really "break out" until 22 but he was ALWAYS very good in the NHL. I wouldnt say based on the data we have here that laffy will break out like that. at this point he has a similar bust percentage as he does a home run style breakout.
20 déc. 2021 à 2 h 11
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cant tell me Laffy's value hasnt plummeted either though. his comparables all year were mcdavid, crosby, and at worst huberdeau. He definitely isnt mcdavid or crosby. and huberdeau had a pretty solid 19yo campaign. had the sophomore slump then has been a really quality player since. Am i probably wrong about it yeah, is part of the issue the rangers... maybe. But looking at the actual on ice product the kid hasnt looked any better than alex texier. he was 235th in league history of 19 year olds that played based on points per game slightly ahead of guys like josh bailey, bo horvat, and anthony beauvillier. using his age 20 season hes 808th tied with cody eakin, and slightly ahead of teuvo teravainen (rookie year on stacked chicago team), curtis lazar, emerson etem, cole caufield (lol), and chuck kobasew... using basic projection models its not looking good for the kid. IF he picks it up... he will be regaining lost value.

not sure of many players that played 200+ games in the league and then exploded in his mid 20s. marchand is really the only guy of recent memory where he went from a mid tier player to elite almost overnight.

The difference between players like kaprizov and panarin to chytil are both guys played phenominally in KHL. They were already proven offensive threats overseas. Kaprizov at 18 in khl had 27 in 53 and then at 19 had 42 in 49 and followed that up with 40 in 46 at age 20. Panarin at 18 played 20 khl games and had 9 points, at 19 he had 21 in 40 and at 20 he had 31 in 50. he didnt really "break out" until 22 but he was ALWAYS very good in the NHL. I wouldnt say based on the data we have here that laffy will break out like that. at this point he has a similar bust percentage as he does a home run style breakout.


I definitely agree that Laf has had his value drop a lot since he was drafted but he could still be a really solid top 6 LW in the future. I also agree w/ you that he has a similar bust percentage as he does a breakout. For him to be a solid NHL player, though, he doesn't have to have a breakout season. If he was half a decade older and producing like this then it would be safe to call him a bust, but he's only 20.
21 déc. 2021 à 9 h 47
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I definitely agree that Laf has had his value drop a lot since he was drafted but he could still be a really solid top 6 LW in the future. I also agree w/ you that he has a similar bust percentage as he does a breakout. For him to be a solid NHL player, though, he doesn't have to have a breakout season. If he was half a decade older and producing like this then it would be safe to call him a bust, but he's only 20.


right but chytil isnt only 20, hes 22. with 210 games in the league. very rare for players to grow exponentionally after theyve played what amounts to almost 3 full seasons. thats typically the player they are. you can tell me they have all the skill in the world or the highest ceilings but most guys dont hit their ceilings. NYR prospects especially. how many 1st overall pick duds do they have in the last 10 years?
21 déc. 2021 à 11 h 11
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right but chytil isnt only 20, hes 22. with 210 games in the league. very rare for players to grow exponentionally after theyve played what amounts to almost 3 full seasons. thats typically the player they are. you can tell me they have all the skill in the world or the highest ceilings but most guys dont hit their ceilings. NYR prospects especially. how many 1st overall pick duds do they have in the last 10 years?


Kravtsov, Andersson, Laf, Kakko. All could still breakout but at the moment are looking like bust. I think it's a problem of NYR development system which is obviously miserable.
21 déc. 2021 à 12 h 11
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Kravtsov, Andersson, Laf, Kakko. All could still breakout but at the moment are looking like bust. I think it's a problem of NYR development system which is obviously miserable.


lias looks like a bust, they already moved him for way less than the price they paid to select him and hes not exactly blowing up in LA with a young rebuilding team. I personally dont put too much stock into Kravstov. Hes actually playing pretty well in the KHL this year but that being said i dont know if that will necessarily translate to america. If he goes to a team outside the rangers i could see him becoming something. laf SHOULD still amount to something although the hype has totally gone away with him at this point. same with kakko.
21 déc. 2021 à 14 h 1
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right but chytil isnt only 20, hes 22. with 210 games in the league. very rare for players to grow exponentionally after theyve played what amounts to almost 3 full seasons. thats typically the player they are. you can tell me they have all the skill in the world or the highest ceilings but most guys dont hit their ceilings. NYR prospects especially. how many 1st overall pick duds do they have in the last 10 years?


I'm just saying that based on last season where he put up over half a ppg at 21, he showed that he had good potential. yes he's been very bad so far this season, but still abt 2/3 of the season left. If he can pick up the pace then he's very valuable, but if not then I agree that he has very little value.
21 déc. 2021 à 14 h 19
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I'm just saying that based on last season where he put up over half a ppg at 21, he showed that he had good potential. yes he's been very bad so far this season, but still abt 2/3 of the season left. If he can pick up the pace then he's very valuable, but if not then I agree that he has very little value.


If he finishes at .5ppg I would be beyond shocked that would mean over the next 50 games he would need to score at or above a .6538PPG pace which is true 2nd line scoring... he looks like a fringe 3rd liner.
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