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Équipe: 2022-23 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 7 nov. 2021
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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 47
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Brad Lambert is this drafts' Räty. With more speed to his game. He will fall to 10-15 but should be a top-5 pick in my mind. Lane has some strings to pull until then for sure. He's so dynamic.


If he falls to the late teens early 20s Isles should trade up for him
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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 48
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Dufour reminds me a bit of Dal colle in juniors. Obviously Dal colle was more dominant. I think the problem with Dal colle was he lost his confidence, blame could go to Bridgeort for that. If Dufour has a high IQ and a great shot , I don’t see why his game wouldn’t translate unless his skating doesn’t improve . I don’t think it’s that bad anyways, he good in a straight line but needs to work on his agility. The opposite of Raty


Yeah, I thought Dal Colle would be a 30-ish scorer on Tavares wing for years. His skating was an issue I clearly undervalued. And I clearly overvalued his hockey-IQ. I'm probably biased coming from Sweden, but my pick was William Nylander, I prayed Garth would pick him...
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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 50
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I was conditioning myself to hate Holmstrom because we passed on Mcmichael and Tomasino lol, but I can’t ignore the swagger he’s playing with this season. It would be great if he turns into something meaningful.


Yeah, and we can't underestimate he was so young when he came over. As a Swede myself, I know how different life is adjusting to North America at a young age. + He was injured for a season when he got drafted. We (in Sweden) thought he would be picked as a late 2nd or early 3rd rounder.
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Yeah, I thought Dal Colle would be a 30-ish scorer on Tavares wing for years. His skating was an issue I clearly undervalued. And I clearly overvalued his hockey-IQ. I'm probably biased coming from Sweden, but by pick was William Nylander, I prayed Garth would pick him...


Dal colle had a great D+1 , players who make that jump almost always go on to be top 6 players. I think Bridgeport turned him into a grinder and didn’t really focus on developing his offensive game. He has a great shot, can’t get it off at the NHL level because of confidence/timing.
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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 53
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If he falls to the late teens early 20s Isles should trade up for him


Absolutely and we have a wildcard in Lane Lambert who knows this. I hope there's a chance.
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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 54
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Dal colle had a great D+1 , players who make that jump almost always go on to be top 6 players. I think Bridgeport turned him into a grinder and didn’t really focus on developing his offensive game. He has a great shot, can’t get it off at the NHL level because of confidence/timing.


Yeah and don't forget how many shots he hit the post with in his early shots at the NHL level. He's still got an amazing shot, but as you said, he was developed into a grinder role. Feel bad for him honestly,
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7 nov. 2021 à 9 h 56
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Yeah, and we can't underestimate he was so young when he came over. As a Swede myself, I know how different life is adjusting to North America at a young age. + He was injured for a season when he got drafted. We (in Sweden) thought he would be picked as a late 2nd or early 3rd rounder.


At one point I remember seeing Holmstrom considered for the top 15 (before he got hurt , after his great D-2 season) . I heard the reason why Holmstrom came to Bridgeport at 18 YO was because he would have been sent to juniors in the SHL. I think playing in Bridgeport at 18 hurt his development and accoridng to Scott wheeler from the athletic, isles had him put on weight which hurt his skating. Do you think his skating looks better this season?
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 2
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At one point I remember seeing Holmstrom considered for the top 15 (before he got hurt , after his great D-2 season) . I heard the reason why Holmstrom came to Bridgeport at 18 YO was because he would have been sent to juniors in the SHL. I think playing in Bridgeport at 18 hurt his development and accoridng to Scott wheeler from the athletic, isles had him put on weight which hurt his skating. Do you think his skating looks better this season?


Yes I actually got some intel in the Holmström decision, as a hobby journalist. He wanted- and wants to play in the NHL, been his goal and dream ever since he could remember. He didn't want to get loaned out to Vita Hästen in HockeyAllvenskan last year, he actually asked Lou if he could stay and just work out with the NHL team - he thought he would learn more by that. - Hence why he stayed with them in the bubble (that was by his request, not Islanders, by my sources, which is legit).

His skating is much better, not by pace, but with regards to him acclimatizing to the North American style. He worked this summer on being faster on smaller areas = better pace, not fast in regards to being fast over longer ice.
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 4
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Yes I actually got some intel in the Holmström decision, as a hobby journalist. He wanted- and wants to play in the NHL, been his goal and dream ever since he could remember. He didn't want to get loaned out to Vita Hästen in HockeyAllvenskan last year, he actually asked Lou if he could stay and just work out with the NHL team - he thought he would learn more by that. - Hence why he stayed with them in the bubble (that was by his request, not Islanders, by my sources, which is legit).


Holmstrom was with the isles in the bubble two years ago?
7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 6
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Holmstrom was with the isles in the bubble two years ago?


Yes he was. Just to learn, and that thought him a lot. Especially Nelson, based on what he said to Swedish media actually. I edited some things the last post, look that up.
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Yes he was. Just to learn, and that thought him a lot. Especially Nelson, based on what he said to Swedish media actually. I edited some things the last post, look that up.


That’s the most important thing - I’d rather a player play fast with mediocre skating than skate fast and play slow. Nick Leddy is an elite skater but he doesn’t play with pace.
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 11
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At one point I remember seeing Holmstrom considered for the top 15 (before he got hurt , after his great D-2 season) . I heard the reason why Holmstrom came to Bridgeport at 18 YO was because he would have been sent to juniors in the SHL. I think playing in Bridgeport at 18 hurt his development and accoridng to Scott wheeler from the athletic, isles had him put on weight which hurt his skating. Do you think his skating looks better this season?


Holmström's always been a great talent, but with a lot of injuries and "what ifs" in Sweden. At a young level, he dominated so much that people compared him to Peter Forsberg, even if that's unjust of course. I and other people are just concerned about his development after all the injuries, he's looked slower and more cautious...
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That’s the most important thing - I’d rather a player play fast with mediocre skating than skate fast and play slow. Nick Leddy is an elite skater but he doesn’t play with pace.


Yeah for sure. BUT his skating issue is the biggest issue, if he could work on that he's a legit NHL player in the makings without a doubt because his hockey-IQ always been very good.
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 16
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Holmström's always been a great talent, but with a lot of injuries and "what ifs" in Sweden. At a young level, he dominated so much that people compared him to Peter Forsberg, even if that's unjust of course. I and other people are just concerned about his development after all the injuries, he's looked slower and more cautious...


I think it was Trotz who mentioned that he’s gaining more confidence after being injury free for awhile. Hopefully he can continue to build and take more risks without worrying he’s going to suffer another injury.

I forget the guys last name, a scout named Jokke who’s now a scout for the canes was high on holmstrom even after the isles drafted him and pretty much implied that he has the tools to become a star if he puts everything together
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Yeah for sure. BUT his skating issue is the biggest issue, if he could work on that he's a legit NHL player in the makings without a doubt because his hockey-IQ always been very good.


But that’s the isles fault - he was a good skater before he got drafted. Like Scott wheeler said, he put on too much weight in a short period of time which hurt his skating. Hopefully he’s working with a skating coach.
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I think it was Trotz who mentioned that he’s gaining more confidence after being injury free for awhile. Hopefully he can continue to build and take more risks without worrying he’s going to suffer another injury.

I forget the guys last name, a scout named Jokke who’s now a scout for the canes was high on holmstrom even after the isles drafted him and pretty much implied that he has the tools to become a star if he puts everything together


Jokke Nevalainen, I know him a bit, wouldn't call him a friend. Yeah, he thought that Holmström was a top-15 pick just based on his raw talent, a great prospect analyzer for sure.
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 23
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But that’s the isles fault - he was a good skater before he got drafted. Like Scott wheeler said, he put on too much weight in a short period of time which hurt his skating. Hopefully he’s working with a skating coach.


Yeah there's a swede named Andreas Larsson, has a reputation of being one of the best skating coaches in the world, training with a lot of the Swedish players during the offseason, I hope he can work with him.
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 42
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But that’s the isles fault - he was a good skater before he got drafted. Like Scott wheeler said, he put on too much weight in a short period of time which hurt his skating. Hopefully he’s working with a skating coach.


Off-topic; Who of Samuel Girard, Shea Theodore, Jakob Chychrun, Hampus Lindholm would you rather have if you could pick one?
7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 43
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Off-topic; Who of Samuel Girard, Shea Theodore, Jakob Chychrun, Hampus Lindholm would you rather have if you could pick one?


Theodore and it’s not close lol
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7 nov. 2021 à 10 h 56
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Theodore and it’s not close lol


Yeah good choice. 🤩
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Theodore and it’s not close lol


Another interesting question: which C would you trade straight up for Barzal?
7 nov. 2021 à 11 h 15
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Another interesting question: which C would you trade straight up for Barzal?


Considering age + contract , the only 3 centers I’d trade straight up for Barzal is Pettersson, Barkov, and Mcdavid.
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Considering age + contract , the only 3 centers I’d trade straight up for Barzal is Pettersson, Barkov, and Mcdavid.


Not Draisaitl or Matthews? Interesting. I get the contract factor but it would be hard for me to pass those up.
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Not Draisaitl or Matthews? Interesting. I get the contract factor but it would be hard for me to pass those up.


I guess Matthews I would do , no doubt he’s a top 3 center. If we’re going just on ability then for sure I’d trade barzal for him. Draisiatl is interesting. Despite the point totals I don’t think there’s a big difference between him and Barzal. I could be wrong.
7 nov. 2021 à 12 h 4
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If he falls to the late teens early 20s Isles should trade up for him


100%. Issue is a lot of teams probably feel that way.
 
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