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Équipe: 2021-22 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 30 août 2021
Publié: 30 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
65 250 000 $
2850 000 $
11 000 000 $
1800 000 $
23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
24 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
2.
NYI
ARI
  1. Komarov, Leo
  2. Salo, Robin
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 004 188 $1 365 854 $1 325 000 $495 812 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 5
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Islanders de New York
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1

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30 août 2021 à 4 h 3
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Cizikas will get 6yr/2.5
Palmieri will get longer term at probably more money.
I dont believe Beauvillier will that much money.

It would be horrible to trade away our best d-prospect for dumping one year of Komarov.
30 août 2021 à 5 h 22
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Cizikas will get 6yr/2.5
Palmieri will get longer term at probably more money.
I dont believe Beauvillier will that much money.

It would be horrible to trade away our best d-prospect for dumping one year of Komarov.


Only thing I agree with is trading Salo.
30 août 2021 à 8 h 39
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I think the isles would want an extension to coming along with Rielly
30 août 2021 à 10 h 14
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Only thing I agree with is trading Salo.


It’s not a matter of opinion about Cizikas and Palmieri, only based on reporting. Cizikas 6yr/2.5 have been heavily implied. And Palmieri longterm, I don’t think that means 2 years. And he was an UFA, I don’t think he would accepted only 2 years and 4 mil, seems low regarding his leverage. We can only hope for 4-4.5. 5 is more realistic I think.
30 août 2021 à 12 h 51
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It’s not a matter of opinion about Cizikas and Palmieri, only based on reporting. Cizikas 6yr/2.5 have been heavily implied. And Palmieri longterm, I don’t think that means 2 years. And he was an UFA, I don’t think he would accepted only 2 years and 4 mil, seems low regarding his leverage. We can only hope for 4-4.5. 5 is more realistic I think.


With the way lou is rocking this offseason, i dont think he gives both term and aav. If hes getting term the aav is gonna be lower than most people think (hoping that if he gets term he gets 5×<4)
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30 août 2021 à 15 h 50
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It’s not a matter of opinion about Cizikas and Palmieri, only based on reporting. Cizikas 6yr/2.5 have been heavily implied. And Palmieri longterm, I don’t think that means 2 years. And he was an UFA, I don’t think he would accepted only 2 years and 4 mil, seems low regarding his leverage. We can only hope for 4-4.5. 5 is more realistic I think.


Yeah because every "report" is true.
30 août 2021 à 16 h 57
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Yeah because every "report" is true.


Where have I said every ”report” is true?
30 août 2021 à 17 h 1
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With the way lou is rocking this offseason, i dont think he gives both term and aav. If hes getting term the aav is gonna be lower than most people think (hoping that if he gets term he gets 5×<4)


Yeah, that would be very nice.
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30 août 2021 à 17 h 21
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Yeah, that would be very nice.


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With the way lou is rocking this offseason, i dont think he gives both term and aav. If hes getting term the aav is gonna be lower than most people think (hoping that if he gets term he gets 5×<4)


After seeing the rumor that Beau is getting 4.15 x 3 and Sorokin 4 mill x 3, i I’d bet Palmieri gets 5 years, but somewhere in the 3.9-4.1 mill AAV range. The term isn’t great but as long as there are no signing bonuses towards the end then it’s worth it.
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30 août 2021 à 17 h 25
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After seeing the rumor that Beau is getting 4.15 x 3 and Sorokin 4 mill x 3, i I’d bet Palmieri gets 5 years, but somewhere in the 3.9-4.1 mill AAV range. The term isn’t great but as long as there are no signing bonuses towards the end then it’s worth it.


Yes, it definitely could of been worse. Where have you seen the Sorokin rumor? smile
30 août 2021 à 17 h 28
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Yes, it definitely could of been worse. Where have you seen the Sorokin rumor? smile


One of Sorokins tagged post on Instagram. Sports24 (i think it’s a Russian news source) reported it.
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30 août 2021 à 19 h 13
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After seeing the rumor that Beau is getting 4.15 x 3 and Sorokin 4 mill x 3, i I’d bet Palmieri gets 5 years, but somewhere in the 3.9-4.1 mill AAV range. The term isn’t great but as long as there are no signing bonuses towards the end then it’s worth it.


I dont think so. He has 2 years left as a middle 6 forward, then he will be a fringe nhler. Paying a scratch 3×4m ismt a good idea. Hes andrew ladd lite.
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I dont think so. He has 2 years left as a middle 6 forward, then he will be a fringe nhler. Paying a scratch 3×4m ismt a good idea. Hes andrew ladd lite.


He’s not comparable to Ladd , different styles. Ladd was pretty much a Jack of all trades, master of none type of player. He didn’t do any one thing at an elite level. The two years before the Isles signed him, his offensive play driving really fell off a cliff and he put up numbers because he played with superstars. Once he joined the islanders his injury problems sped up his decline even more. Then he had that buyout proof contract which made the situation even worse for the isles.

Palmieri does two things extremely well, he’s an elite finisher and he’s very good defensively. He has also been one of the leagues best finishers on the PP over the last 5 years, scoring at a similar rate as Ovechkin. Palmieri’s shooting percentage was 8.7 % last season , his average S% over the last 6 years is 13.2%. So he’s actually due for a huge bounce back season next year. Anyone who knows what regression to the mean is could have called Anders Lee have a big season last year (36 goal pace). The year before he was extremely unlikely, just like Palmieri was last season.

Palmieri’s two closest comparable are Craig Smith and Patrick Hornqvist IMO. Smith is 31 , Hornqvist is 34 and they still produce at a top 6 rate. I’m not a fan of giving 30+ players long term deals , but It’s a good bet that he’ll provide top 6 value for the next two years and middle 6 value for the 2 years after that. If the contract is 5.5 x 5 I’ll be disappointed but if it’s less than 4.5 mill and it doesn’t have signing bonuses, I’m fine with that.
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30 août 2021 à 20 h 5
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He’s not comparable to Ladd , different styles. Ladd was pretty much a Jack of all trades, master of none type of player. He didn’t do any one thing at an elite level. The two years before the Isles signed him, his offensive play driving really fell off a cliff and he put up numbers because he played with superstars. Once he joined the islanders his injury problems sped up his decline even more. Then he had that buyout proof contract which made the situation even worse for the isles.

Palmieri does two things extremely well, he’s an elite finisher and he’s very good defensively. He has also been one of the leagues best finishers on the PP over the last 5 years, scoring at a similar rate as Ovechkin. Palmieri’s shooting percentage was 8.7 % last season , his average S% over the last 6 years is 13.2%. So he’s actually due for a huge bounce back season next year. Anyone who knows what regression to the mean is could have called Anders Lee have a big season last year (36 goal pace). The year before he was extremely unlikely, just like Palmieri was last season.

Palmieri’s two closest comparable are Craig Smith and Patrick Hornqvist IMO. Smith is 31 , Hornqvist is 34 and they still produce at a top 6 rate. I’m not a fan of giving 30+ players long term deals , but It’s a good bet that he’ll provide top 6 value for the next two years and middle 6 value for the 2 years after that. If the contract is 5.5 x 5 I’ll be disappointed but if it’s less than 4.5 mill and it doesn’t have signing bonuses, I’m fine with that.


Fair enough. Agreed about the anders example. My issue with palms is i think bc of his heavy style of play, when he starts getting older youll see a lot of injuries similar to ladd. It takes a toll on your body. But i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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