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Créé par: GenW
Équipe: 2021-22 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2021
Publié: 10 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 300 000 $
75 500 000 $
32 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Comtois, Maxime
  2. Groulx, Benoit-Olivier
  3. Lindholm, Hampus
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
2.
BUF
  1. Maltsev, Mikhail
  2. Murray, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Lindholm, Hampus (2 600 000 $ retained)
3.
BUF
ANA
  1. Murray, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Part of the Eichel trade. 3-way deal
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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2024
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2381 500 000 $57 322 514 $113 916 $1 015 000 $24 177 486 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 3
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3 050 000 $3 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 037 500 $2 037 500 $
AG
RFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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809 167 $809 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 822 764 $2 822 764 $
DG
UFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 1
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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10 août 2021 à 9 h 55
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I don't hate it conceptually but Anaheim seems to be overpaying and Colorado perhaps underpaying.
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Why are the Ducks trading their best defenseman if they are trading for Eichel? Doesnt make a whole lot of sense for them
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10 août 2021 à 9 h 56
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Quoting: GoodIdeaAtTheTime
I don't hate it conceptually but Anaheim seems to be overpaying and Colorado perhaps underpaying.


It's a 3 way trade, i messed up before hitting send. Fixed now
10 août 2021 à 10 h 0
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Quoting: Salzy
Why are the Ducks trading their best defenseman if they are trading for Eichel? Doesnt make a whole lot of sense for them


It's a 3 way trade, i messed up before hitting send. Fixed now. they arent making a playoff push this season imo, and he's a UFA. Getting Ryan Murray back in the 3-way as a filler until the young guys are ready to go
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10 août 2021 à 10 h 6
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It's a 3 way trade, i messed up before hitting send. Fixed now. they arent making a playoff push this season imo, and he's a UFA. Getting Ryan Murray back in the 3-way as a filler until the young guys are ready to go


If they trade for Eichel they pay Lindholm and extend him, they might even do that without getting Eichel, he's the one of the "Current Core" worth extending for the Ducks.

ANA would need to prove to Eichel he can win in ANA, whats the difference between BUF and ANA? they were the bottom 2 teams in the league. Eichel wouldnt be happy seeing the best player on the other team traded before he gets there, why wouldnt he immediately demand a trade out of ANA, or hold us hostage once his NMC kicks in the last 2 years of his contract
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10 août 2021 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: Salzy
If they trade for Eichel they pay Lindholm and extend him, they might even do that without getting Eichel, he's the one of the "Current Core" worth extending for the Ducks.

ANA would need to prove to Eichel he can win in ANA, whats the difference between BUF and ANA? they were the bottom 2 teams in the league. Eichel wouldnt be happy seeing the best player on the other team traded before he gets there, why wouldnt he immediately demand a trade out of ANA, or hold us hostage once his NMC kicks in the last 2 years of his contract


Thats a fair argument, though you could easily replace Lindholm with Rakell in this trade scenario if thats an issue, and i think it's still close.
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10 août 2021 à 10 h 22
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Quoting: GenW
Thats a fair argument, though you could easily replace Lindholm with Rakell in this trade scenario if thats an issue, and i think it's still close.


Rakell would be Eichel's linemate if we trade for him, the Ducks wouldnt be subtracting from the current team if they bring Eichel in. Henrique (Or less likely Shattenkirk) would have to go back money wise if the Ducks did trade for Eichel tbh, for the roster space as well.

The max I see ANA giving up is
Comtois
Steel
Perreault
Henrique
2022 first (Top 10 protected, top 5 protected in 2023, no protection 2024)

I understand that seems underwhelming and not a great return for Eichel, but ANA isnt a great trade partner for Eichel. The Ducks are essentially in the same spot as BUF rn, would the Sabres trade the farm for an Eichel right now? I just dont see the sense in it for ANA right now based on where they are
10 août 2021 à 10 h 28
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Quoting: Salzy
Rakell would be Eichel's linemate if we trade for him, the Ducks wouldnt be subtracting from the current team if they bring Eichel in. Henrique (Or less likely Shattenkirk) would have to go back money wise if the Ducks did trade for Eichel tbh, for the roster space as well.

The max I see ANA giving up is
Comtois
Steel
Perreault
Henrique
2022 first (Top 10 protected, top 5 protected in 2023, no protection 2024)

I understand that seems underwhelming and not a great return for Eichel, but ANA isnt a great trade partner for Eichel. The Ducks are essentially in the same spot as BUF rn, would the Sabres trade the farm for an Eichel right now? I just dont see the sense in it for ANA right now based on where they are


How would it not be Silferberg and Comtois as his linemates? IMO that makes more sense. Legit I dont know, I havent seen ANA play in a bit. I see a ton of people complain about Rakell so assumed he'd be the guy to go

As far as the trade you proposed, im fine with that as a return, I really like Comtois and Steel. Only part i dont love is the protected pick, think it would have to be top 5 protection for everything. But im not hung up on that tbh
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10 août 2021 à 10 h 35
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Quoting: GenW
How would it not be Silferberg and Comtois as his linemates? IMO that makes more sense. Legit I dont know, I havent seen ANA play in a bit. I see a ton of people complain about Rakell so assumed he'd be the guy to go

As far as the trade you proposed, im fine with that as a return, I really like Comtois and Steel. Only part i dont love is the protected pick, think it would have to be top 5 protection for everything. But im not hung up on that tbh


I meant Jones not comtois my B
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How would it not be Silferberg and Comtois as his linemates? IMO that makes more sense. Legit I dont know, I havent seen ANA play in a bit. I see a ton of people complain about Rakell so assumed he'd be the guy to go

As far as the trade you proposed, im fine with that as a return, I really like Comtois and Steel. Only part i dont love is the protected pick, think it would have to be top 5 protection for everything. But im not hung up on that tbh


Lets say we do the trade I listed heres how I see the top 9

Rakell-Eichel-Terry
Milano-Zegras-Silf
Jones-Lundestrom-Volkov

If Comtois is moved Rakell is our best finisher and Terry is (for my money) our best 2-way forward
Silf would provide more insulation for Z, while Jones, Milano and Volkov would be interchangeable

The Ducks cant afford to trade first round picks (especially with the strength of the next two drafts) If they do trade them there's no chance its without protection, even top 10 protection might not be enough, they probably push for straight up lottery protection, just doesnt make sense for a team that finished 30th out of 31 teams.
10 août 2021 à 10 h 46
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Quoting: Salzy
Lets say we do the trade I listed heres how I see the top 9

Rakell-Eichel-Terry
Milano-Zegras-Silf
Jones-Lundestrom-Volkov

If Comtois is moved Rakell is our best finisher and Terry is (for my money) our best 2-way forward
Silf would provide more insulation for Z, while Jones, Milano and Volkov would be interchangeable

The Ducks cant afford to trade first round picks (especially with the strength of the next two drafts) If they do trade them there's no chance its without protection, even top 10 protection might not be enough, they probably push for straight up lottery protection, just doesnt make sense for a team that finished 30th out of 31 teams.


Okay, that's all fair. What I'm taking away from all of this is both teams are looking pretty rough for at least a year or two more lol
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10 août 2021 à 10 h 50
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Okay, that's all fair. What I'm taking away from all of this is both teams are looking pretty rough for at least a year or two more lol


Pretty much the sentiment of Duck fans as well tears of joy Thats why most of us are against Eichel trades on here or at least ones that have Zegras or Drysdale in them, we just aren't really at the point where it makes sense yet
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Quoting: Salzy
Pretty much the sentiment of Duck fans as well tears of joy Thats why most of us are against Eichel trades on here or at least ones that have Zegras or Drysdale in them, we just aren't really at the point where it makes sense yet


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