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Créé par: Islesforthecup
Équipe: 2021-22 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 13 juill. 2021
Publié: 13 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trade 1 - expansion
Seattle takes leddy as bellows was already traded.

Trade 2 - OTT
Ottawa gets a 2nd to take on komarovs contract. Could go to any team.

Trade 3 - BUF
This trade happens before the expansion draft and buffalo gets bellows to take on hickey. Like trade 2 this could go to any team.

Trade 4 - EDM
After the keith trade its pretty obvious where holland wants to go. Varlamov is clearly the best goalie thats on the market both trade and FA (fleury has too big of a cap hit and is only signed for 1 year). Varlys contract will expire when keiths does so the timeline works. The only way varly is getting moved though is for a 1st, and ive seen EDM fans not want to move the '21 1st bc they might get cossa so i took the '22. It could be the '21 also. Can also go to WSH if thats what they want so they can move samsonov, but then they lose a goalie. That might be ok though for them.

Trade 5 - WSH
Islanders get a young russian goalie to pair with sorokin. He gets to come to the islanders (and more specifically mitch korn) while WSH doesnt end up losing one of their goalies in the expansion. Trying to figure out what he would cost.


Free Agency

Chara takes one more shot at the cup where it all started. He gets to be a mentor for dobson, and is a solid stay at home dman playing sheltered minutes.

Martinez gets a contract right around where all the rest of the offers will be. Players like winning and he sees a chance for another cup with the isles. He gets a 2 year deal that should fit the timeline of salo/bolduc perfectly.

Casey gets some nice term at a solid number. He could probably get a little more on the open market but this way has guaranteed money for 5 years and doesnt have to move his family. He also gets to play with longtime friends matt martin and cal clutterbuck.

Line Combinations

Lee-barzal-eberle
This line was really good in the bubble and at the beginning of the year up until lee got hurt. After that it was a revolving door at LW and barzy and eberle struggled. Hopefully getting lee back will get this line back to form.

Beauvillier-nelson-bailey
Our most effective line the last 2 playoffs, these guys have been great together.

Golyshev-pageau-wahlstrom
This line can be really dangerous though it wont be that checking line that was seen in the playoffs. Golyshev had the 5th most points ever in the khl for someone aged 21 or younger (i hope i got that right). Wahlstrom was above average defensively last season and was 2nd on the islanders in gx60. He was on pace for 24 goals over an 82 game season in his rookie year. Really excited if this is the 3rd line next season.

Martin-cizikas-clutterbuck
The best 4th line in hockey.

Pelech-pulock
Arguably the best d pair in hockey (toews-makar is pretty damn good).

Martinez-mayfield
Mayfield we all saw what he can be in the playoffs and hopefully he and martinez can be better 5v5 than him and leddy. Martinez imo is the perfect style to complement mayfield.

Chara-dobson
Dobson doesnt get top 4 minutes but he does see an increase in time in high pressure situations. He does get to learn from one of the best to ever do it. Chara can be that stay at home dman that dobson needs to succeed while bringing a ton of leadership and experience.

Sorokin
Showed a lot of promise in his 1st year. Got his feet wet with varly here and now its time to take over. As his backup/1b he has another young russian netminder.

Samsonov
Had a great 1st year and then regressed the 2nd. He still has a lot of talent and with mitch korn and playing in the trotz system i think he can take a big step forward. This goalie pair can be a 2 headed monster for a long time.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
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UFAANSCAP HIT
52 500 000 $
11 365 854 $
1800 000 $
24 500 000 $
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    13 juill. 2021 à 1 h 39
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    NO NO NO OUR DAY HAS BEEN BAD ENOUGH
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    NO NO NO OUR DAY HAS BEEN BAD ENOUGH


    Why this trade is fair value? But since its holland i probably shouldve gotten both the '21 and '22 1sts.
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    Quoting: Islesforthecup
    Why this trade is fair value? But since its holland i probably shouldve gotten both the '21 and '22 1sts.


    I don't know why but I have never liked Varlamov ever since he was a Capital. So seeing him here is one of my worst nightmares tears of joy

    You also seem to want to be rid of him as well...?
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    I don't know why but I have never liked Varlamov ever since he was a Capital. So seeing him here is one of my worst nightmares tears of joy

    You also seem to want to be rid of him as well...?


    I really dont, the guy put up a vezina caliber season the last 2 years. I was just interested in the idea of a sorokin-samsonov tandem so varly had to go. But ask any islanders or oilers fan thats a fair trade.
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    I really dont, the guy put up a vezina caliber season the last 2 years. I was just interested in the idea of a sorokin-samsonov tandem so varly had to go. But ask any islanders or oilers fan thats a fair trade.


    Yeah, but so did Griess and Lehner before him. If you're a reasonably good goalie, you look like a superstar on the island
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    Yeah, but so did Griess and Lehner before him. If you're a reasonably good goalie, you look like a superstar on the island


    Greiss never looked like a super star, he looked like a 1b until he got older and looked like a good backup, then he went to Detroit(terrible everything) in a starting role and obviously didn’t play like a starter or put up great numbers. Lehner is a superstar, plays like it in Blackhawks and VGK.
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    Greiss never looked like a super star, he looked like a 1b until he got older and looked like a good backup, then he went to Detroit(terrible everything) in a starting role and obviously didn’t play like a starter or put up great numbers. Lehner is a superstar, plays like it in Blackhawks and VGK.


    Did Chicago even get a first for Lehner from Vegas, who was a trade and sign deal? And Lehner is 3x as good as Varly
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    I assume the 1.3 mil is Greene’s bonuses from last year, is that the exact number?
    I can see Varly being traded in order to keep Eberle and acquire Martinez.
    Hickey can be bought out for 833,000 x2, price to get rid of him is much less than a previous first rounder that might(I think probably will) crack the roster out of training camp. I’d say maybe a 3rd to get rid of him.
    Although I’d prefer Zdeno in that spot, I think Greene signs for that money and that spot, with Bolduc/Salo rotating in often. I agree that Martinez with Mayfield instead of Leddy would be very good, especially Martinez being better on the pp.
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    Did Chicago even get a first for Lehner from Vegas, who was a trade and sign deal? And Lehner is 3x as good as Varly


    He’s not 3x as good as Varlamov, but he is better. You can’t forget that Lehner is a head case, I love him, but it affects his value. And his contract was ending.
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    All that cogent analysis there

    Then suggesting the isles have the best 4th line *and* D pair in the NHL* I mean 😵 ... uh. Golly. A whole bunch that easily surpass both of those units:

    4th
    Bonino Bjugstad Sturm
    Spezza Thornton Boyd
    Panik Dowd Hathaway
    Raffl Patrick NAK
    Byron Evans Perry
    Joseph Maroon Colton
    Ryan Leivo Nordstrom
    Martinook Geekie Paquette

    D
    Toews Makar (as you mentioned)
    McAvoy Grz
    Slavin Hmilton
    Josi Ellis
    Doumy Letang
    Rielly Brodie
    Werenski Jones
    Few teams pair their best 2 D together also...

    Just kinda bizarre and unfortunate

    *they have one of the best goalie tandems for sure but if the other two were accurate they'd probably be a 60 win team given Barzal so like 🙃
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    Did Chicago even get a first for Lehner from Vegas, who was a trade and sign deal? And Lehner is 3x as good as Varly


    If he was 3x as good he'd have a career sv% of .960
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    Yeah, but so did Griess and Lehner before him. If you're a reasonably good goalie, you look like a superstar on the island


    Tbf lehner set the nhl record for consecutive playoff shutout minutes in vegas. But yes mitch korn is a helluva coach.
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    All that cogent analysis there

    Then suggesting the isles have the best 4th line *and* D pair in the NHL* I mean 😵 ... uh. Golly. A whole bunch that easily surpass both of those units:

    4th
    Bonino Bjugstad Sturm
    Spezza Thornton Boyd
    Panik Dowd Hathaway
    Raffl Patrick NAK
    Byron Evans Perry
    Joseph Maroon Colton
    Ryan Leivo Nordstrom
    Martinook Geekie Paquette

    D
    Toews Makar (as you mentioned)
    McAvoy Grz
    Slavin Hmilton
    Josi Ellis
    Doumy Letang
    Rielly Brodie
    Werenski Jones
    Few teams pair their best 2 D together also...

    Just kinda bizarre and unfortunate

    *they have one of the best goalie tandems for sure but if the other two were accurate they'd probably be a 60 win team given Barzal so like 🙃


    1. The 4th line thing was kinda a joke as theyve been referred to as the best 4th line in hockey for years.
    2. The d pairs you mentioned, almost all of them are not better than pelech-pulock, lets start.
    Toews-makar - yes
    Grzelcyk-mcavoy - no
    Slavin-hamilton - not together anymore as hamilton is leaving
    Josi-ellis - ?
    Dumoulin-letang - no
    Rielly-brodie - you gotta be kidding me
    Werenski-jones - no

    Remember, both pelech and pulock were top 20 in norris voting (obviously im not just basing it off that). As for a 60 win team, they started the season 19-6-4 in a really tough division before lee went down.
     
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