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Créé par: awaters2121
Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 30 juin 2021
Publié: 30 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
34 500 000 $
44 750 000 $
22 000 000 $
34 800 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 800 000 $
24 500 000 $
2975 000 $
21 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 600 000 $
25 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
1900 000 $
1975 000 $
21 800 000 $
Transactions
DET
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
STL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $67 557 223 $0 $2 018 750 $13 942 777 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance318 750 $$319K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 600 000 $3 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 600 000 $3 600 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
975 000 $975 000 $
DD
RFA - 2

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30 juin 2021 à 13 h 58
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Vrana will get a lot more, but other than that, pretty solid

EDIT - Just noticed Glendening. That's way too much for him. Anything over 2 and they should let him walk... Personally, I don't think they should even pay 2m... He's fine and I wouldn't mind him back, but he's not worth that much
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30 juin 2021 à 14 h 4
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Yeah vrana gets more and as much as id like martinez I can't see him coming here. As usually Dunn is a yes go get him already.
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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 2
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LGD salary is definitely an overpayment. I know Dunn is a hot commodity on here, but I hope we keep that pick (I’d go a 2nd and B prospect instead, or not trade at all) and TANK. Not to say the Wings are ever lucky, but finishing last gives you the best odds and these upcoming drafts have the franchise players the Wings desperately need.
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30 juin 2021 à 15 h 38
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Vrana will get a lot more, but other than that, pretty solid

EDIT - Just noticed Glendening. That's way too much for him. Anything over 2 and they should let him walk... Personally, I don't think they should even pay 2m... He's fine and I wouldn't mind him back, but he's not worth that much


Yep, Glendening was a mistake was supposed be $1.8. Fixed that. I think Vrana will get more but with what Ryan Nugent Hopkins got, my gut says there is going to be an adjustment in what salary is offered due to the flat cap and other variables. With Yzerman already being strict on salary and term I kinda figure it might be just under $5 mill with plenty of performance bonuses.
30 juin 2021 à 15 h 40
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Yeah vrana gets more and as much as id like martinez I can't see him coming here. As usually Dunn is a yes go get him already.


My hope is Martinez wants to come home and takes a bit of overpayment (IMO) to come to the building WIngs. I also think Seider, Dunn, Stecher, and Hronek might attract some surprising free agents. Yes, in my head Vrana gets more, but gut tells me that variables such as Flat Cap and escrow push players towards wanting more performance bonuses.
30 juin 2021 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: RedWings86
LGD salary is definitely an overpayment. I know Dunn is a hot commodity on here, but I hope we keep that pick (I’d go a 2nd and B prospect instead, or not trade at all) and TANK. Not to say the Wings are ever lucky, but finishing last gives you the best odds and these upcoming drafts have the franchise players the Wings desperately need.


LGD salary was a mistake that has now been corrected. I'm on the fence with the Dunn trade, there are a number of players I'd love for the wings to draft with that pick (Especially Cossa if he is available), but a young 24-year-old defenseman with a proven track record and likely progression is tough to come by. I don't think a 2nd and a b prospect gets Dunn. The biggest factor for me is how well (IMO) he would fit the rebuild, I think with Hronek, Dunn, and Seider there is a small core group that could be there for 5-10 years while the Wings bring in one older defenseman and fill in the remaining two spots with prospects or another veteran free agent. Dunn provides some versatility with being able to play both LD and RD. A UBC Business School study found that defensemen "improve and decline more slowly than forwards do and perform within 90% of their peak from 24 to 34 years old (two longer than forwards), and 26 is their most common age." According to Dobber Prospects, about 74 % of 1st round picks end up playing over 100 games and that's 65% for "Late 1st round (16-31") picks. By my count, the Red Wings have taken 10 defensemen in the last three years of drafting, it's likely that besides Seider the rest take 2-4 years of development before seeing NHL ice. Exchanging a late 1st round pick for a proven NHL player that could play for the Wings for the next 3-8 years while still having one high first-round pick and 11 additional picks this year along with 10 next year seems to fit the rebuild. I think it's safe to say that the Red Wings will remain in the draft lottery for the next two years, but it will be difficult to be worse than Columbus and Buffalo and Yzerman has consistently stated that he wants the team to be competitive during the rebuild. But, the last offseason is a good example that Yzerman is good at finding quality free agents, Merril and Stecher fill the void perfectly, and arguably just bringing back Merril could provide an applicable stop-gap (but only 1-3 years) while maintaining a high percentage shot on the dartboard of prospects.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/when-nhl-players-peak-hockey-metrics-1.2646054
https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/
30 juin 2021 à 19 h 52
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LGD salary was a mistake that has now been corrected. I'm on the fence with the Dunn trade, there are a number of players I'd love for the wings to draft with that pick (Especially Cossa if he is available), but a young 24-year-old defenseman with a proven track record and likely progression is tough to come by. I don't think a 2nd and a b prospect gets Dunn. The biggest factor for me is how well (IMO) he would fit the rebuild, I think with Hronek, Dunn, and Seider there is a small core group that could be there for 5-10 years while the Wings bring in one older defenseman and fill in the remaining two spots with prospects or another veteran free agent. Dunn provides some versatility with being able to play both LD and RD. A UBC Business School study found that defensemen "improve and decline more slowly than forwards do and perform within 90% of their peak from 24 to 34 years old (two longer than forwards), and 26 is their most common age." According to Dobber Prospects, about 74 % of 1st round picks end up playing over 100 games and that's 65% for "Late 1st round (16-31") picks. By my count, the Red Wings have taken 10 defensemen in the last three years of drafting, it's likely that besides Seider the rest take 2-4 years of development before seeing NHL ice. Exchanging a late 1st round pick for a proven NHL player that could play for the Wings for the next 3-8 years while still having one high first-round pick and 11 additional picks this year along with 10 next year seems to fit the rebuild. I think it's safe to say that the Red Wings will remain in the draft lottery for the next two years, but it will be difficult to be worse than Columbus and Buffalo and Yzerman has consistently stated that he wants the team to be competitive during the rebuild. But, the last offseason is a good example that Yzerman is good at finding quality free agents, Merril and Stecher fill the void perfectly, and arguably just bringing back Merril could provide an applicable stop-gap (but only 1-3 years) while maintaining a high percentage shot on the dartboard of prospects.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/when-nhl-players-peak-hockey-metrics-1.2646054
https://dobberprospects.com/2020/05/16/nhl-draft-pick-probabilities/


I’m with you on Cossa. I hope he falls, heck trade up a few picks if need be.

Dunn does fit quite well in that DET needs a LHD and he’s still young. I know that D take longer to develop unlike forwards and thus their prime is staggered slightly, so definitely not coming at this from a perspective of him not being a good fit. Obviously STL will set the bar high (all teams do, even BUF although Eichel’s value is lower now than what they are actually asking for) and I think DET’s offer starts with their late or mid 2nd rounder and a prospect (low ball as it should), I just haven’t seen enough in their rebuild to warrant giving up a 1st rounder right now. My height is the Wings 2021 2nd and a B prospect, and this is also considering STL is not trading from a position of strength.

Sure a bidding war could ensue, but if that happens, I think a bubble team will more than likely get him for there 1st. There are plenty on here that easily give up WSH’s 1st and there are plenty with worse offers than mine, I just try to fall in the middle. And hey that’s why we’re all ACGMs and not actual GMs!
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30 juin 2021 à 20 h 53
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100% agree, appreciate the feedback. I'm excited to see how it all turns out!
 
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