Jack to the Canes

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Créé par: lrw2105

Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2021

Publié: 24 juin 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Underlying thoughts on trading for JE -
Teams that *should* think abt trading for JE, i.e. playoff teams that have the trading pieces and who seem to need a boost in order to get them to the next level of contention - CAR, COL, MIN, VGK
Teams whose names seem to come up most frequently in the rumor mill - NYR, CLB, ANA
Teams that have the pieces to trade for JE but don't seem to be interested - LAK
What BUF seems to want - high '21 first + elite prospect + goalie, not taking back cap, Western conference
What BUF *should* want - '22 first + elite prospect + good roster player/plug and play center + willingness to take on some cap and willingness to go with the best deal regardless of location.

In this universe, after checking out the market, Hamilton and CAR realize that neither can do better than the other and CAR gives DH the Pietrangelo deal (~60mil) but spread out over 8 yrs and w/o signing bonuses/NMC. CAR realizes after losing to TBL, in order to win now they need to go all in with DH and JE, even if 24-25 creates tough decisions with Svechnikov, Aho, and Teräväinen up for raises and the cap not necessarily rising yet ... In this universe Svechnikov only wanted to sign a bridge ... however in this universe the team trades longterm flexibility to make the most of its current roster.

Season begins with a loaded top six, a tough to play against defensive 3rd line, and a 'play-the-kids' 4th line that could be supplemented with vets later depending on how the season goes - there's cap space for such adjustments and/or to make a deadline splash.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Svechnikov, Andrei	3	6 000 000 $
Bean, Jake	2	1 200 000 $
Nedeljkovic, Alex	3	3 500 000 $
Geekie, Morgan	2	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Hamilton, Dougie	8	7 500 000 $
Hakanpää, Jani	2	1 200 000 $
McGinn, Brock	1	2 000 000 $
Dell, Aaron	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

CAR

Expansion

SEA

Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]

CAR

Eichel, Jack

Détails additionnels:

Sabers get a good center top 6 center, an elite prospect (CAR gives them a choice between Jarvis and Suzuki), and two firsts, including a '22 one for what will be a more stacked draft. Gardiner is necessary for cap ... BUF would prefer to send Eichel West and take back no cap, but if other bidders are ANA, CLB, and MIN (who also has to give back cap), might this be the only team who can/will send a top six center back along with futures? From CAR's perspective, they may need to go big this year to get over the hump. This trade assumes the JE would be ready to play next season.

BUF

Gardiner, Jake
Jarvis, Seth
Trocheck, Vincent
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	79 109 415 $	0 $	832 500 $	2 390 585 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Svechnikov, Andrei 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Eichel, Jack 10 000 000 $10 000 000 $ C UFA - 5	Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3
Niederreiter, Nino 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Aho, Sebastian 8 460 250 $8 460 250 $ C UFA - 3	Necas, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 1
McGinn, Brock 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 2	Fast, Jesper 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Bokk, Dominik 863 333 $863 333 $ (212 500 $$212K) AG, AD UFA - 2	Suzuki, Ryan 863 333 $863 333 $ C RFA - 3
Lorentz, Steven 725 000 $725 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1		Geekie, Morgan 900 000 $900 000 $ C, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Hamilton, Dougie 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ DD UFA - 7
Skjei, Brady 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 3
	Hakanpää, Jani 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Nedeljkovic, Alex 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 2
Bean, Jake 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 3	Keane, Joey 809 166 $809 166 $ (82 500 $$82K) DD RFA - 1	Dell, Aaron 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1

24 juin 2021 à 14 h 47

Ritzy

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For arguments sake, let's just say this deal goes through.

What's the plan for Necas the following year? Just let Nino walk?

24 juin 2021 à 14 h 47

OnlyBadDeals

Your deal is bad

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If this is all it would cost, I'm down. It will probably cost Necas+ though

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24 juin 2021 à 14 h 48

vikhodush

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Quoting: Ritzy

For arguments sake, let's just say this deal goes through.

What's the plan for Necas the following year? Just let Nino walk?

Yep

24 juin 2021 à 14 h 48

OnlyBadDeals

Your deal is bad

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Quoting: Ritzy

For arguments sake, let's just say this deal goes through.

What's the plan for Necas the following year? Just let Nino walk?

Probably let Nino walk and use a cheap ELC to fill his spot. Bokk maybe?

24 juin 2021 à 14 h 55

vikhodush

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Very well thought out and done, good work. Few thoughts.

Would prefer to move on from McGinn (or move Fast) and use that money plus some cap space to target somebody with more offensive upside (Tatar seemingly would be a good fit with his style of play and analytics that the Canes would love or somebody else in the 3-3.5M range on a shorter term deal like Hoffman, Granlund, etc).

Would also want an improvement on the bottom pair - couple ways to make this happen. Slot Bean up to second pair playing with Pesce and hope that he continues to develop both physically and mentally. Move Skjei for picks and use the cap space to get somebody like Oleksiak and a better RD than Hakanpaa (Hjalm, Mike Reilly, Osterle, Bogosian, etc.)

Still think BUF ultimately wants Necas as part of the deal which if that’s the case is too rich for me personally. Would also rather keep Jarvis and send Suzuki but would be fine with either if this is the deal.

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24 juin 2021 à 15 h 14

lrw2105

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: vikhodush

Thanks! You're probably right w/r/t to Necas - or you should be right, though I wonder if MN is valued more by CAR than league-wide ... Beyond MN's value to CAR, I just couldn't see how the cap would work w/o shifting more, and some of that cap from BUF's perspective should need to come from a valuable player like Trocheck in order not to be offset with more picks. Do wonder if another pick/prospect would need to be added to balance for Gardiner.

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24 juin 2021 à 15 h 20

vikhodush

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Quoting: lrw2105

Wouldn’t be surprised is CAR valued Necas more than across the league. When watching him play you can easily see super star attributes if he continues to develop and he’s team controlled for a long time which is very important. Hard to part with him even if you may be getting back a better players bc of his team control and potentially lighter cap hit down the road.

In terms of Gardiner, he’ll likely be LTIR next season based on recent comments suggesting another back surgery is in his future. If that’s the case the Canes don’t need to offset any cap space or sweeten the pot for BUF to take him.

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24 juin 2021 à 15 h 25

OnlyBadDeals

Your deal is bad

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Quoting: vikhodush

In terms of Gardiner, he’ll likely be LTIR next season based on recent comments suggesting another back surgery is in his future. If that’s the case the Canes don’t need to offset any cap space or sweeten the pot for BUF to take him.

I thought so too, but apparently he is playing in a Summer league so I can't be too bad.

Source: https://twitter.com/corylav/status/1407928045038669824

24 juin 2021 à 15 h 26

vikhodush

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Quoting: OnlyBadDeals

I thought so too, but apparently he is playing in a Summer league so I can't be too bad.

Source: https://twitter.com/corylav/status/1407928045038669824

Oh man good call out. I hadn’t seen that. Well guess that was overstated and we do need to find somewhere else for him haha

24 juin 2021 à 15 h 34

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ApparentlyOilFan

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Ayres gonna be a better backup than Dell. Let him go toe to toe with Lehner

24 juin 2021 à 15 h 37

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Necas. Without him it’s a non-starter

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