Trading Guentzel to Set Up A Rebuild Offseason

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Créé par: Arom5477

Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2021

Publié: 21 juin 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

With this roster, we're still set up for a long run in the playoffs with a deep roster; However, with a lot of the contracts being up after the season allows us to take a hard look after the season with $54MM in cap space to decide: Do we keep going? Or, do we shut it down and rebuild? Also, if for some reason the team doesn't pan out, there are a lot of players on this roster that could garner high draft picks come trade deadline time.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Fabbro, Dante	1	1 250 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach	1	1 500 000 $
Blueger, Teddy	1	1 875 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gaudreau, Frédérick	1	875 000 $
Rinne, Pekka	1	2 500 000 $
Landeskog, Gabriel	1	8 000 000 $

Transactions

PIT

SEA

Matheson, Michael

PIT

Fabbro, Dante [Droits de RFA]
Forsberg, Filip
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NSH)

Détails additionnels:

Conditional 2022 2nd round pick becomes a 2022 1st round pick if Guentzel scores 40+ goals -or- NSH makes it to the Western Conference Finals.

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Similar to the Hornqvist trade at the start of GMJR's tenure: Traded the superior point-getter in James Neal, but got a new identity player in Hornqvist.

Same thing here: Trading the elite point getter, but small, Guentzel for a bigger, grittier Forsberg. Fabbro and the pick even up the deal due to Forsberg being UFA and Guentzel being young and having term.

Also, this sets up a lot freed cap space after the season to make the dreaded rebuild decision.

NSH

Guentzel, Jake

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BOS)

BUF

Jarry, Tristan

PIT

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)

VAN

Zucker, Jason

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 1 166 667 $

Enfoui

Juuso Riikola: 25 000 $ (1 150 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	81 394 872 $	0 $	212 500 $	105 128 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Landeskog, Gabriel 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ AG, C UFA - 8	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 4	Forsberg, Filip 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG UFA - 1
McCann, Jared 2 940 000 $2 940 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 1	Rust, Bryan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Tanev, Brandon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4	Carter, Jeff 2 636 364 $2 636 364 $ AD, C UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Blueger, Teddy 1 875 000 $1 875 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Gaudreau, Frédérick 875 000 $875 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1	Rinne, Pekka 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G UFA
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 4	Marino, John 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD UFA - 6	DeSmith, Casey 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier 863 333 $863 333 $ (212 500 $$212K) DG RFA - 1	Fabbro, Dante 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Poulin, Samuel 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG RFA - 3
Friedman, Mark 725 000 $725 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad 750 000 $750 000 $ DD UFA - 1

21 juin 2021 à 12 h 31

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Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: KDow88

Love how all you Pens fans are ready to jump off the Jarry bandwagon soooo quickly... He struggled at the beginning of the season and in playoffs but the in between he was sorting it out, and you're all quick to forget how good he was last season pre-pandemic... Kid is still young on a team friendly deal and will be coming back with a purpose next season, while coming into his prime years.. Settle down Pens fans, you're gonna be fine, tweaks here and there and the team still has a window to winning(a lot longer than Washington's that's for sure!!!)...

Just to provide some context, at least from some of us Pens fans, we don't all think Jarry is bad. From my viewpoint while he's not young, he's still early in his NHL development and shows all the ability to be a true #1. This was his first season as a starter, so growing pains are expected. The issue is timing. The Sid/Geno window is closing fast and some would argue it's already closed, so we don't necessarily have time to wait out Jarry's development and need a proven starter now.

21 juin 2021 à 13 h 27

#27

Arom5477

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Quoting: KDow88

In all honesty, we just miss Fleury. He's the ex-girlfriend we want back but is already dating someone else.

21 juin 2021 à 13 h 34

#28

josi4norris

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

Very incorrect assessment on Jake being an accessory type player. Jake is a top ten winger in this league.

Top 10?

21 juin 2021 à 13 h 41

#29

Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: josi4norris

Top 10?

He's been a point per game player across his last three seasons. How many wingers in the NHL do that?

21 juin 2021 à 13 h 47

#30

josi4norris

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

He's been a point per game player across his last three seasons. How many wingers in the NHL do that?

I'm not saying he's not good. He's a very good player. I got to see plenty of him in the SCF in 2017 lol. I'm just saying that I think it might be too soon to call him a top 10 winger when there are guys like Kucherov, Marchand, Pastrnak, Panarin, Kane, Stone, Rantanen, Marner, Huberdeau, Ovechkin, etc. Again, he's a great player, but I don't think you're getting a young top 4 defenseman, a top 6 forward, a team's top forward prospect, and a 1st round pick for him.

21 juin 2021 à 13 h 49

#31

Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: josi4norris

He's sniffing them for sure. Plus, how many do what he does for $6M?

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21 juin 2021 à 15 h 32

#32

PeterForsberg21

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VAN decline, they don't have the cap space.

22 juin 2021 à 3 h 18

#33

josi4norris

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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki

He's sniffing them for sure. Plus, how many do what he does for $6M?

The contract is great. What's up with all the Guentzel trades recently? I'm not sure why Pens fans want him moved. I know he didn't play great in the playoffs, but he had a fantastic year.

22 juin 2021 à 9 h 11

#34

Mr_Gardoki

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Quoting: josi4norris

The contract is great. What's up with all the Guentzel trades recently? I'm not sure why Pens fans want him moved. I know he didn't play great in the playoffs, but he had a fantastic year.

Unfortunately not all fans of every team are that bright lol. It's highly unlikely Jake gets moved, but some Pens fans are in the Hextall camp and want the Pens to get bigger and stronger, and look, there's nothing wrong that per-se, but IMO you don't move Jake to make that happen.

On a side note, we really don't know how Hextall and Burke value every player. They may look to revamp this team in their image.

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