Weaponizing cap

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Créé par: ItzLamey

Équipe: 2021-22 Red Wings de Detroit

Date de création initiale: 16 juin 2021

Publié: 17 juin 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Explanation for some trades.
First trade is a pure cap dump and to get Johnson to waive by telling him beforehand he would be sent to Edmonton (a contender)
Neal is a capdump and the lack of retaining salary on Neal plus the term gives Edmonton a player in return.

Virtanen seems to have hit a wall I'm Vancouver and Loui is a cap dump to help clear for Hughes and Patterson, plus the rumors of Van being interested in SR would also be beneficial to clear Virtanens cap aswell.

Most of the players that are ufas for Detroit this off season I wouldn't be shocked didn't return but glendenning is a killer on face-off's so I wouldn't be shocked if he did come back.

Now my favorite part, let's here the criticisms fellow armchair Gms.. 😂

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Rasmussen, Michael	3	1 750 000 $
Bertuzzi, Tyler	3	4 250 000 $
Cholowski, Dennis	3	1 750 000 $
Djoos, Christian	2	1 250 000 $
Vrána, Jakub	4	4 250 000 $
Erne, Adam	2	925 000 $
Smith, Givani	2	925 000 $
Lindström, Gustav	3	925 000 $
Hronek, Filip	3	2 225 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Ryan, Bobby	1	1 000 000 $
Gagner, Sam	1	1 000 000 $
Bernier, Jonathan	3	4 250 000 $
Glendening, Luke	1	1 500 000 $

CRÉÉ	ANS	CAP HIT
Beniers, Matthew	3	925 000 $
Tuomaala, Samu	3	900 000 $
LHeureux, Zachary	3	925 000 $

Transactions

DET

Alnefelt, Hugo
Johnson, Tyler
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (TBL)

Détails additionnels:

Cap dump to clear space for other players on Tampa

TBL

Future considerations

DET

Neal, James
Puljujärvi, Jesse
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

EDM

Johnson, Tyler (2 500 000 $ retained)

DET

Eriksson, Loui
Virtanen, Jake
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)

VAN

Future considerations

Rachats de contrats

Justin Abdelkader: 2 305 556 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Tyler Johnson: 2 500 000 $ (50%)

Enfoui

Frans Nielsen: 4 125 000 $ (5 250 000 $)
Adam Erne: 0 $ (925 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2021
2022
2023

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	64 807 223 $	0 $	2 018 750 $	16 692 777 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Zadina, Filip 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C UFA - 2	Bertuzzi, Tyler 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Virtanen, Jake 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Fabbri, Robby 2 950 000 $2 950 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Vrána, Jakub 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG UFA - 3
Neal, James 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, C UFA - 3	Puljujärvi, Jesse 1 175 000 $1 175 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Glendening, Luke 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 2	Namestnikov, Vladislav 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1
Pánik, Richard 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
DeKeyser, Danny 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Stecher, Troy 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Bernier, Jonathan 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
	Hronek, Filip 2 225 000 $2 225 000 $ DD RFA - 3	Greiss, Thomas 3 600 000 $3 600 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Seider, Moritz 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 3
Cholowski, Dennis 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DG RFA - 1
Djoos, Christian 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lindström, Gustav 925 000 $925 000 $ DD RFA - 2
Veleno, Joseph 894 167 $894 167 $ (318 750 $$319K) C RFA - 2

Équipe de réserve
Ryan, Bobby 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, AG UFA
Eriksson, Loui 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ (4 875 000 $$5M4 875 000 $$5M) AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Gagner, Sam 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AD, C UFA - 1

17 juin 2021 à 8 h 34

yztnuK

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Something to consider for Vancouver - Maybe 2022 second is better.
Or not.
Eriksson can be buried in the minors and Virtanens buyout is so cheap, might not worth a 2nd

remowilliams a aimé ceci.

17 juin 2021 à 8 h 39

Gmonwy

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I doubt oilers use Puljujärvi to dump Neal. Him and McDavid had amazing Chemistry IMO this past season

17 juin 2021 à 8 h 51

Billy12Bob

Rejoint: sept. 2020

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Detroit would get Alnefelt, Puljujärvi, a late 1st and a very late 3rd to eat $19 million in cap and $18 million in real salary.

I wouldn't do that deal unless I was offered the double in return.

That cap can be used much better.

17 juin 2021 à 9 h 1

redw1n9s

Rejoint: mars 2016

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It was fine until you included Puljujarvi. And VAN doesn't need to shed Eriksson this way.

17 juin 2021 à 10 h 10

rednwhite

Rejoint: mai 2016

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I like the trades but think Tampa would have to give more to make it happen. Also the cap hits for vrana and hronek seem a little low.

17 juin 2021 à 10 h 22

Lancebmx

Rejoint: oct. 2020

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To take on Johnson's three years I would definitely expect a bit more. I don't think puljujarvi fits in Detroit and has way more value to Edmonton. In my opinion the first is probably a decent enough return, if you give Johnson some value at half salary maybe a third comes back as well. Eriksson trade is fine, I do think Vancouver needs to shed salary if they don't want to just throw this season. Virtanen brings negative value and should just be bought out, it's quite cheap for him. Djoos is playing on Europe next year.

17 juin 2021 à 11 h 36

rpain

Rejoint: août 2019

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The OIlers have very little interest in moving on from JP unless return is significant. Oilers are thin on the wings and he's a young cheap top 6 winger. I think a 1st with Neal is as high as the Oilers go for a dump, more than that and they just buy him out. I think I'd have time for TJ at 50% retained but wouldn't be giving up a JP to make it happen.

17 juin 2021 à 11 h 43

ItzLamey

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: juill. 2020

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Quoting: rednwhite

I like the trades but think Tampa would have to give more to make it happen. Also the cap hits for vrana and hronek seem a little low.

Yzerman has already proven to be a stickler for spending money I think Bertuzzi's will be near spot on, Viana could command a tad more but I doubt it in only a 11 game sample

Quoting: redw1n9s

It was fine until you included Puljujarvi. And VAN doesn't need to shed Eriksson this way.

Vancouver also is shedding virtannen as he has regressed this year and total would clear 7+mill all for a second round pick.

Quoting: Billy12Bob

Possibly but I think the Marc stall trade for cap really set the rates and I think this is probably close to what could actually happen we fans value players and draft picks differently than the gms so I really don't know...

Quoting: Gmonwy

I doubt oilers use Puljujärvi to dump Neal. Him and McDavid had amazing Chemistry IMO this past season

Johnson would essentially be replacing Puljujärvi and with both Puljujärvi's salary and Neal's gone it would free up a bunch of cap in Edmonton. Player for player +draft pick for dump.

17 juin 2021 à 11 h 48

ItzLamey

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Quoting: rpain

Would equally take another draft pick or 2 if they just wanted the Neal dump +Johnson. I am more looking at cap numbers for Edmonton being the deciding factor more than locker room chemistry and lines

17 juin 2021 à 14 h 37

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redw1n9s

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Quoting: ItzLamey

Yzerman has already proven to be a stickler for spending money I think Bertuzzi's will be near spot on, Viana could command a tad more but I doubt it in only a 11 game sample

Vancouver also is shedding virtannen as he has regressed this year and total would clear 7+mill all for a second round pick.

Possibly but I think the Marc stall trade for cap really set the rates and I think this is probably close to what could actually happen we fans value players and draft picks differently than the gms so I really don't know...

Johnson would essentially be replacing Puljujärvi and with both Puljujärvi's salary and Neal's gone it would free up a bunch of cap in Edmonton. Player for player +draft pick for dump.

It's been made explicitly clear over the past few years that teams are not going to be giving up valuable picks or players for cap dumps.

17 juin 2021 à 16 h 41

#11

ItzLamey

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Quoting: redw1n9s

It's been made explicitly clear over the past few years that teams are not going to be giving up valuable picks or players for cap dumps.

There has never been flat caps and covid type situations..... but here we are things change.

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Weaponizing cap

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