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Time to be Bold

Créé par: campi95
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2021
Publié: 21 mai 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rangers add veteran leadership to the Center position. While becoming a "heavier" team to play against.

Bruins- Kreider waives NMC to go back home to Boston. Rangers include 2 prospects. Bruins send underperformer Debrusk. Young Dman in Lauzon and depth forward Lazar.

Sharks go into full rebuild mode finally. I feel the compensation is adequate since Couture is now 32. 2 1sts, a blue chip Dman and a bottom 6 forward may be too steep. But the retention of salary drives up the price slightly.

Blues receive a top 10 Center in the league for a top 6-8 Center. Debrusk is a 2nd/3rd line player add in the 4th rounder I think that is fairly accurate compensation.

Calgary- Tkachuk being in his early 20's was the steepest price. Georgiev is a 1B goalie could eventually become the full time started depending on Markstrom. Strome has developed into a solid point getting 2nd line center. Kravstov is 21 year old Blue Chip Prospect. Robertson is a potential 4-5 Defenseman if there needs to be a stronger Dman prospect could maybe go with Zac Jones. You could add in a pick or another prospect to replace Kravstov other than Lafreniere.

UFA
Simmonds adds quality Grit and Presence to the 4th Line
Coleman adds quality Veteran and Utility Player attitude to 3rd Line
Halak Provides insurance to the backup role and Kincaid is there in case Halak struggles or injury.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 750 000 $
45 750 000 $
55 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
12 500 000 $
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NYR
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew
CGY
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar
  2. Kakko, Kaapo
  3. Strome, Ryan
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Lazar, Curtis
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Kreider, Chris
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  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
STL
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Zibanejad, Mika
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
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NYR
  1. Couture, Logan (2 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Barron, Morgan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (BOS)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $70 068 135 $0 $5 432 500 $11 431 865 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
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Buchnevich, Pavel
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
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UFA - 4
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Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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Couture, Logan
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 6
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Tkachuk, Matthew
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Simmonds, Wayne
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
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Chytil, Filip
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
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Blackwell, Colin
725 000 $725 000 $
C, AD
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Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Lazar, Curtis
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 2
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Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
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Shesterkin, Igor
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
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UFA - 4
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Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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Fox, Adam
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Halák, Jaroslav
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Jones, Zachary
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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Robertson, Matthew
797 500 $797 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG
RFA - 3
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Kinkaid, Keith
825 000 $825 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
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Schneider, Braden
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
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21 mai 2021 à 11 h 56
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Rangers would still have 20 million available plenty to sign Fox.


That’s just not true.
21 mai 2021 à 11 h 59
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The Couture trade is horrible and a massive overpay by the Rangers. The Flames and Blues reject and I'm pretty confident Boston would too.
21 mai 2021 à 12 h 14
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That’s just not true.


The number on the screen in front of me says otherwise.
21 mai 2021 à 12 h 23
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The Couture trade is horrible and a massive overpay by the Rangers. The Flames and Blues reject and I'm pretty confident Boston would too.


Adjusted the Couture Trade. I really don't think the value is that far off for any of the trades, but I am sure there are things that could be adjusted.
21 mai 2021 à 12 h 33
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The number on the screen in front of me says otherwise.


But i think what the other poster was getting at is that it’s not just fox that needs to be signed. Tkachuk needs probably 9, Fox probably 10 or 11 if theres any term. Then lazar has to be re-signed or replaced, along with the entire fourth line. Halak has to be re-signed or replaced. Lafreniere and Jones are only a year after that. It just doesn’t work.
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But i think what the other poster was getting at is that it’s not just fox that needs to be signed. Tkachuk needs probably 9, Fox probably 10 or 11 if theres any term. Then lazar has to be re-signed or replaced, along with the entire fourth line. Halak has to be re-signed or replaced. Lafreniere and Jones are only a year after that. It just doesn’t work.


I don't see Fox getting double digits in a contract. The most comparable situation would be Thomas Chabot of the Senators. He got 8x8. I think that is exactly where Fox comes in. They could make 8x6 to give him an opportunity to make more down the road, but Defenseman don't make 10/11 mil at 23. Tkachuk I think is in the 8-9 range as well. Teams can make adjustments to bring in depth for cheap happens every year.
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 19
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I don't see Fox getting double digits in a contract. The most comparable situation would be Thomas Chabot of the Senators. He got 8x8. I think that is exactly where Fox comes in. They could make 8x6 to give him an opportunity to make more down the road, but Defenseman don't make 10/11 mil at 23. Tkachuk I think is in the 8-9 range as well. Teams can make adjustments to bring in depth for cheap happens every year.


This is typical rangers fans lunacy. In one breath they’re saying he should win this Norris for the leagues best d man, and then in the next they’re saying his closest contract comparable is freaking Thomas chabot. Get real. The closest comparable is drew doughty, one of the few other d men that were getting legitimate Norris attention on their ELC. Doughty signed his extension in 2010 i believe, when the cap was 56 million. He signed for 7x7 (also worth considering he was much younger when he signed, so he would have more earning power coming off his second contract. An 8 year deal takes fox to 32). In todays cap that works out to a little over 10 million. I think we can also all agree that players are getting more on their second contracts than they used to. 12.5 for McDavid. A ridiculous 5x11.6 for Matthews. 6x10.9 for marner.

If fox is one of the top five d men in the league he’ll get 10+ on an 8 year deal, and that’s probably a low floor.
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 25
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This is typical rangers fans lunacy. In one breath they’re saying he should win this Norris for the leagues best d man, and then in the next they’re saying his closest contract comparable is freaking Thomas chabot. Get real. The closest comparable is drew doughty, one of the few other d men that were getting legitimate Norris attention on their ELC. Doughty signed his extension in 2010 i believe, when the cap was 56 million. He signed for 7x7 (also worth considering he was much younger when he signed, so he would have more earning power coming off his second contract. An 8 year deal takes fox to 32). In todays cap that works out to a little over 10 million. I think we can also all agree that players are getting more on their second contracts than they used to. 12.5 for McDavid. A ridiculous 5x11.6 for Matthews. 6x10.9 for marner.

Lunacy huh...Victor Hedman makes less than 8 mill. You also point out anomalies like Mcdavid and Matthews. There is a market where Fox could get that much sure. But I do not think he will be double digits. NYR does a great job of taking care of their players. I would be willing to bet Fox does not go over 8.5.

If fox is one of the top five d men in the league he’ll get 10+ on an 8 year deal, and that’s probably a low floor.
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 42
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On an 8 year deal, that’s utter insanity. On a bridge, that’s reasonable. You don’t want fox bridged.

Hedman is a very bad comparison.
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 48
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Not thrilled about the retention but not a bad offer nonetheless.
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21 mai 2021 à 13 h 55
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On an 8 year deal, that’s utter insanity. On a bridge, that’s reasonable. You don’t want fox bridged.

Hedman is a very bad comparison.


I said term would most likely be 8x6 Similar in average in money to Chabot but 2 less years to allow him the ability to make more money sooner. Just because a team gave a Dman a bad contract like Subban/Doughty/Karlsson does not mean that another organization will do the same. I love Fox but to pay him over 10 million for 8 years is insane with a flat cap the next couple. He will not get paid double digits. They will not bridge him either. If anything he gets a 5-6 year deal and he clocks in around 8.5.
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 56
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Flames very easily decline
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 58
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Not thrilled about the retention but not a bad offer nonetheless.


Has Couture really fallen off that much or is it just the fact that the team is handcuffed with all the bad contracts and they need to rebuild?
21 mai 2021 à 13 h 59
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I said term would most likely be 8x6 Similar in average in money to Chabot but 2 less years to allow him the ability to make more money sooner. Just because a team gave a Dman a bad contract like Subban/Doughty/Karlsson does not mean that another organization will do the same. I love Fox but to pay him over 10 million for 8 years is insane with a flat cap the next couple. He will not get paid double digits. They will not bridge him either. If anything he gets a 5-6 year deal and he clocks in around 8.5.


That’s just naive. Players that are in consideration for major awards get paid.

By the way, i didn’t list outliers, i listed trends. The big time RFAs coming off their entry deals are getting paid. There aren’t many of them, and they get their money early these days.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 8
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That’s just naive. Players that are in consideration for major awards get paid.

By the way, i didn’t list outliers, i listed trends. The big time RFAs coming off their entry deals are getting paid. There aren’t many of them, and they get their money early these days.


There are no examples of anybody coming off an RFA contract and making double digits as a Dman. There is no trend that you speak of.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 9
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Flames very easily decline


Not at all tempting. Interesting.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 11
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There are no examples of anybody coming off an RFA contract and making double digits as a Dman. There is no trend that you speak of.


There have been no examples of a dman on his entry being the front runner for a Norris since doughty.

The trend i mentioned (cmon man, read) was guys competing for major awards on their entry deals getting paid top dollar off their entry deal. If you haven’t noticed that, well, i just don’t know what league you’re watching.
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There have been no examples of a dman on his entry being the front runner for a Norris since doughty.

The trend i mentioned (cmon man, read) was guys competing for major awards on their entry deals getting paid top dollar off their entry deal. If you haven’t noticed that, well, i just don’t know what league you’re watching.


You are talking about forwards man. They are not the same.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 26
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Has Couture really fallen off that much or is it just the fact that the team is handcuffed with all the bad contracts and they need to rebuild?


No he's still good. He was really hot the first half of the season and was scoring at nearly a career best equaling pace, but then he dropped off hard after he got an injury and decided to play through it instead of just taking the time to heal. He's would still be a very good 2C for pretty much any team.

The issue is his contract. Right now, you could probably argue he's slightly overpaid, but otherwise worth his cap hit. But his term takes him until he's 38 years old, and if we're being honest, he's not going to be anything near an $8M player in the last 2-3 years of his contract.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 29
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No he's still good. He was really hot the first half of the season and was scoring at nearly a career best equaling pace, but then he dropped off hard after he got an injury and decided to play through it instead of just taking the time to heal. He's would still be a very good 2C for pretty much any team.

The issue is his contract. Right now, you could probably argue he's slightly overpaid, but otherwise worth his cap hit. But his term takes him until he's 38 years old, and if we're being honest, he's not going to be anything near an $8M player in the last 2-3 years of his contract.


That's basically what I was seeing. Just wanted to make sure I was not missing anything. You think the Sharks are actually going to go into rebuild mode?
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 36
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That's basically what I was seeing. Just wanted to make sure I was not missing anything. You think the Sharks are actually going to go into rebuild mode?


Sadly no, it doesn't sound like it. Wilson apparently still think there's some semblance of a contender in the current team (there's not lol). Luckily I don't think we're likely to make another Karlsson-esque trade and completely screw up our future, but it seems like rebuilding is not on the agenda. Gonna have to find out rebuilding is the best option the hard way.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 38
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Sadly no, it doesn't sound like it. Wilson apparently still think there's some semblance of a contender in the current team (there's not lol). Luckily I don't think we're likely to make another Karlsson-esque trade and completely screw up our future, but it seems like rebuilding is not on the agenda. Gonna have to find out rebuilding is the best option the hard way.


Oof. That sucks man. I mean being in the Pacific helps a little with chances at the playoffs, but even then that's tough sledding to get past Vegas and Colorado.
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21 mai 2021 à 14 h 43
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You are talking about forwards man. They are not the same.


There’s the naivety coming through strong.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 45
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There’s the naivety coming through strong.


Is that the word of the month for you. Agree to disagree enjoy the Bruins. Do us a favor and take Kreider off our hands.
21 mai 2021 à 14 h 47
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Is that the word of the month for you. Agree to disagree enjoy the Bruins. Do us a favor and take Kreider off our hands.


Absolutely not.

We can agree to disagree, but i just want your take on this.

You think fox is top five at his position, right?
You think fox should be paid 8 million a season with term, correct?
 
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