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Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2021
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I've posed this question to a few of you & have gotten a few different answers, so I thought I would go ahead and throw this ACGM out there for Rangers fans to discuss what they think would need to be added for fair value in a Pavelski (at 50%) for Schneider trade.
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I'm curious what Rangers fans think it would take to complete this trade. First, is Schneider moveable? If so, how close is the value here?

Personally, I don't think there's enough value going to New York here, but I'm curious on your thoughts of what it would take to finish this deal.
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14 mai 2021 à 12 h 22
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Does Pavelski waive to pay $700k more in taxes?
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Does Pavelski waive to pay $700k more in taxes?


Realistically no, but I'm still curious nonetheless.

EDIT: He also goes from a full NMC to a M-NTC next season, so he does lose a little bit of that trade control.
14 mai 2021 à 12 h 28
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Realistically no, but I'm still curious nonetheless.

EDIT: He also goes from a full NMC to a M-NTC next season, so he does lose a little bit of that trade control.


I think he loses the NMC but M-NTC is same for all three years. (3 teams he would agree to move to).
14 mai 2021 à 12 h 35
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Definitely intrigued. Would prefer to move a 1st instead of a Prospect. But with the Salary retention, on top of the fact that he was pretty good this year, it gets my attention.

Realistically, if the Rangers wanted to do this, they could probably take on the entire Contract for next year. Plenty of Cap room for 21-22.
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I think he loses the NMC but M-NTC is same for all three years. (3 teams he would agree to move to).


He had a full NMC the first two seasons that protected him from trade anywhere. He elected not to keep the NMC going into year 3 so that Dallas could leave him open in the expansion draft if they wanted to, but he now carries a M-NTC this season, which he had not had prior the 3rd year of this contract
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Definitely intrigued. Would prefer to move a 1st instead of a Prospect. But with the Salary retention, on top of the fact that he was pretty good this year, it gets my attention.

Realistically, if the Rangers wanted to do this, they could probably take on the entire Contract for next year. Plenty of Cap room for 21-22.


I’ve always been a big Schneider fan which is what spurred on this train of thought. Dallas needs some significant help on the right side of their blue line after Klingberg.

Heiskanen is great, but I would love to be able to move him back to LD. Unfortunately for Dallas, that means that Vatanen or Taylor Fedun would slide into that 2RD role & lets be real...that’s just gross. Not saying Schneider would come in immediately, but given how barren their RD prospect pool is too, it fills a MASSIVE area of need for Dallas.
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14 mai 2021 à 12 h 46
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A first from Dallas would make this deal fair
14 mai 2021 à 12 h 51
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Anyone is moveable - rangers really like Schneider though. Plays a tough and physical game. After the Wilson incident, the Rangers could use more size and strength - not saying hes a fighter but adds some grit to the lineup.
14 mai 2021 à 13 h 35
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Hell No from the Rangers.
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Anyone is moveable - rangers really like Schneider though. Plays a tough and physical game. After the Wilson incident, the Rangers could use more size and strength - not saying hes a fighter but adds some grit to the lineup.


Yup. They traded up to get him and his stock has gone up.

Pavelski is about to be 37 years old.


I'd do Howden for Pavelski at 50%
14 mai 2021 à 14 h 8
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Yup. They traded up to get him and his stock has gone up.

Pavelski is about to be 37 years old.


I'd do Howden for Pavelski at 50%


You realize that Pavelski almost had more points this year than Howden had in his career.
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You realize that Pavelski almost had more points this year than Howden had in his career.


This is about Schneider. Pavelski aint doing it. Not even close.
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This is about Schneider. Pavelski aint doing it. Not even close.


I didn't comment on the Pavs Schneider thing, I commented on your take about Howden.
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I didn't comment on the Pavs Schneider thing, I commented on your take about Howden.


it's the equivalent of the trade proposed in this thread.
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Quoting: Josh
it's the equivalent of the trade proposed in this thread.


If you read the description & the comment under the trade, I’m not suggesting a 1-for-1. I even said that there isn’t enough value going to the Rangers in a 1-for-1 deal. Of course there would be other pieces to flush out the value, this is just base of the deal.
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If you read the description & the comment under the trade, I’m not suggesting a 1-for-1. I even said that there isn’t enough value going to the Rangers in a 1-for-1 deal. Of course there would be other pieces to flush out the value, this is just base of the deal.


yeah - a drastic overpayment.

You need to get the Rangers from Howden-level, where your proposal is at, up to Schneider. Not really seeing that happening with Schneider.

Sign DeAngelo after he's bought out.
 
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