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Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2016
Publié: 15 déc. 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
32 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
2800 000 $
64 500 000 $
43 500 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
55 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (PHI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
2017 Deadline Deal
PHI
  1. Bozak, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
Same price WSH paid for Eller and Bozak >>>Eller
2.
TOR
    Lost in Expansion Draft
    3.
    TOR
    1. Killorn, Alex
    Détails additionnels:
    Pre-Expansion Draft Deal
    TBL
    1. Rychel, Kerby
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (PHI)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PHI)
    Détails additionnels:
    Allows TB to not lose Killorn for nothing
    4.
    TOR
      Rights to D Dmitry Orlov

      Pre-Expansion Draft Deal
      WSH
      1. Lindberg, Tobias
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
      5.
      ANA
      1. Soshnikov, Nikita
      Détails additionnels:
      Rights to RW Jeremy Bracco
      Rachats de contrats
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
      Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
      2018
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de SJS
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de ARI
      Logo de TOR
      2019
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      2020
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
      Logo de TOR
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      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2474 000 000 $67 380 833 $5 370 000 $4 550 000 $6 619 167 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
      C
      UFA - 2
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      AD
      UFA - 2
      2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
      AD, AG, C
      UFA - 1
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      C
      UFA - 5
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 3
      4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
      AD, AG
      NTC
      UFA - 6
      894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      AD
      UFA - 1
      863 333 $863 333 $
      AD
      UFA - 2
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      AG, AD
      UFA - 3
      863 333 $863 333 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 4
      800 000 $800 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 2
      612 500 $612 500 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 1
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 5
      4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 7
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
      4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 2
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 6
      825 000 $825 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      800 000 $800 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      800 000 $800 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      750 000 $750 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 1
      Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
      5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
      AG, AD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
      AD
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 3

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      15 déc. 2016 à 10 h 57
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      I like alot of the ideas, however it mean LV is probably going to snag a defenseman thats not named Marincin (Carrick, Orlov, Manson)
      15 déc. 2016 à 11 h 2
      #2
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      I would protect JVR, Kadri, Killorn, Brown, Rielly, Gardiner, Orlov, Manson and Freddy

      LV would have it's choice of Komarov, Martin, Leipsic, Marincin or Carrick. I could see them going for one of the kids.
      15 déc. 2016 à 11 h 8
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      Those deals put us in a heck of a spot for the expansion, but I don't think the Leafs are just gonna give up Soshnikov (who Babs LOVES) and Bracco (easily considered our best OHL prospect who's lighting it up in the O) for just Manson. Bracco is gonna stay for a while and so is Sosh, but I do like Manson, I just feel he's gonna be a post deadline trade. Not a fan of Orlov since he's been a little streaky in his career but I could be wrong, although I don't see the Leafs moving Lindberg soon either. I see the Bozak trade for 2 2nds happening in the off season, because teams tend to pay much higher prices at the TDL and if Bozak keeps at this pace then he's gonna nab nearly 50 points this season and teams will probably pay at least a first and a prospect for that or two seconds and a good level prospect (considering the Staal trade last year and the Vermette trade from two years ago) I'm not saying Bozak will get EXACTLY that, but if he's doing good by the TDL I can see the price of him rising.
      I'd LOVE Killorn, honestly. No problem with that IMO.
      15 déc. 2016 à 11 h 11
      #4
      leafs1967again
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      Um you started off good. Bozak deal seems reasonable and PHI could use a C, although they would likely prefer a cheaper option.

      Things got bad though.

      Manson is being kept by ANA. He is on his ELC and plays top 4 minutes. You will not get him for that, regardless of what they think of Bracco. Not even close man.

      Again with WSH. Lindberg and a pick, really? The pick is not even 2017? Really? That's terrible. Doesn't matter how highly anyone thinks of Lindberg this is a huge no for WSH. He is a top 4 D. They possibly reject JVR....

      Rychel and 2 2nd's do not get you Killorn. They will find a higher bidder regardless of their desperation. Rychel is going to be lost on waivers next year by someone to a crap team so it's really just 2 2nd's...gross...

      Lets get serious on these offers fellow TML fans.
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      15 déc. 2016 à 12 h 5
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      Modifié 15 déc. 2016 à 12 h 31
      Quoting: leafs1967again
      Um you started off good. Bozak deal seems reasonable and PHI could use a C, although they would likely prefer a cheaper option.

      Things got bad though.

      Manson is being kept by ANA. He is on his ELC and plays top 4 minutes. You will not get him for that, regardless of what they think of Bracco. Not even close man.

      Again with WSH. Lindberg and a pick, really? The pick is not even 2017? Really? That's terrible. Doesn't matter how highly anyone thinks of Lindberg this is a huge no for WSH. He is a top 4 D. They possibly reject JVR....

      Rychel and 2 2nd's do not get you Killorn. They will find a higher bidder regardless of their desperation. Rychel is going to be lost on waivers next year by someone to a crap team so it's really just 2 2nd's...gross...

      Lets get serious on these offers fellow TML fans.


      To begin, I expect nothing less (or more) from you. You are the worst kind of Leaf fan. The type who seeks to grovel at the feet of other teams fans in order to look "fair", all the while you undervalue our players.

      If you can agree that Bozak's value is two 2nds how is Killorn's any more? He has never scored more than 41 points in a season and Bozak, a Centre, has had 49, 49 and 47 point seasons with one of those 49's in 58 games. Killorn also has a 4.5 million cap hit for another 6 years taking him to the age of 33. Ask yourself this, how many teams can afford a) the protection spot and b) the contract?

      As for Orlov, WSH is going to lose him for nothing to Vegas, he is also an RFA. Ask yourself again, how many teams can afford a) the protection spot and b) his new contract if he is as great as you make him out to be? I know one team that can't and that is WSH.

      And lastly in regards to Manson and your claim that ANH will "keep him". ANH, because of Bieksa's NMC is in a really tight spot. Unless they move Fowler, they have to choose the 8 skater protection method. They would have to protect Getz, Perry, Kesler and Bieksa who all have NMC's and then logic would dictate that they would also protect Lindholm, Vatanen and Fowler. That leaves one spot for one of Rackell, Silvferberg, Cogliano or Manson. And that spot would go to one of Rackell or Silvferberg. So Manson is unprotected. Even if they trade Fowler to allow themselves to go 7+3+1, Manson is still unprotected (Lindholm, Vatanen, Bieksa). At that point a return of Soshnikov + Bracco is fair, and might actually be an overpayment.
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      15 déc. 2016 à 13 h 19
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      Banni
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      Quoting: LoovTrain
      Quoting: leafs1967again
      Um you started off good. Bozak deal seems reasonable and PHI could use a C, although they would likely prefer a cheaper option.

      Things got bad though.

      Manson is being kept by ANA. He is on his ELC and plays top 4 minutes. You will not get him for that, regardless of what they think of Bracco. Not even close man.

      Again with WSH. Lindberg and a pick, really? The pick is not even 2017? Really? That's terrible. Doesn't matter how highly anyone thinks of Lindberg this is a huge no for WSH. He is a top 4 D. They possibly reject JVR....

      Rychel and 2 2nd's do not get you Killorn. They will find a higher bidder regardless of their desperation. Rychel is going to be lost on waivers next year by someone to a crap team so it's really just 2 2nd's...gross...

      Lets get serious on these offers fellow TML fans.


      To begin, I expect nothing less (or more) from you. You are the worst kind of Leaf fan. The type who seeks to grovel at the feet of other teams fans in order to look "fair", all the while you undervalue our players.

      If you can agree that Bozak's value is two 2nds how is Killorn's any more? He has never scored more than 41 points in a season and Bozak, a Centre, has had 49, 49 and 47 point seasons with one of those 49's in 58 games. Killorn also has a 4.5 million cap hit for another 6 years taking him to the age of 33. Ask yourself this, how many teams can afford a) the protection spot and b) the contract?

      As for Orlov, WSH is going to lose him for nothing to Vegas, he is also an RFA. Ask yourself again, how many teams can afford a) the protection spot and b) his new contract if he is as great as you make him out to be? I know one team that can't and that is WSH.

      And lastly in regards to Manson and your claim that ANH will "keep him". ANH, because of Bieksa's NMC is in a really tight spot. Unless they move Fowler, they have to choose the 8 skater protection method. They would have to protect Getz, Perry, Kesler and Bieksa who all have NMC's and then logic would dictate that they would also protect Lindholm, Vatanen and Fowler. That leaves one spot for one of Rackell, Silvferberg, Cogliano or Manson. And that spot would go to one of Rackell or Silvferberg. So Manson is unprotected. Even if they trade Fowler to allow themselves to go 7+3+1, Manson is still unprotected (Lindholm, Vatanen, Bieksa). At that point a return of Soshnikov + Bracco is fair, and might actually be an overpayment.
      I feel like you don't know who Killorn is. He's the type of player that does everything there is a coach wants him to do. Coop loves him. I know Bozak is a good player but he's nothing better than a 3C. He gets lifted (offensively wise) because he's playing with Marner and JVR this year and in past years with Kessel and JVR. So just because he puts up points doesn't mean he drives the play.

      And BTW when you said that Anaheim is protecting Getz, Perry, Kesler and Bieksa (also you missed that Vermette also has an NMC) because of the NMC's, Bieksa and Vermette are gonna waive their contracts. Because who the hell would want them. And I think both players understand that.
       
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