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Mantha

Créé par: Isles777
Équipe: 2020-21 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 10 févr. 2021
Publié: 10 févr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This isn’t happening, Lou will never trade sorokin - but I’d definitely consider it to get mantha.
Transactions
DET
  1. Bellows, Kieffer
  2. Bolduc, Samuel
  3. Komarov, Leo (500 000 $ retained)
  4. Sorokin, Ilya
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (COL)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
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725 000 $725 000 $
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
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700 000 $700 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 000 000 $$2M)
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700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (1 425 000 $$1M1 425 000 $$1M)
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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10 févr. 2021 à 18 h 14
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I want wahlstrom
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10 févr. 2021 à 18 h 27
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I want wahlstrom


Over sorokin?
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10 févr. 2021 à 18 h 44
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Over sorokin?


Do you think The Isles would make this trade?
10 févr. 2021 à 18 h 44
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Do you think The Isles would make this trade?


The one I proposed or with wahlstrom?
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10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 0
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Mantha is mad overrated and thats a hell of a lot to pay for anyone
10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 1
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No offense bro i agree with you a lot but this is absurd. Mantha is mad overrated and thats a hell of a lot to pay for anyone


Mantha is not overrated. He is a top 12 rw in the league. Elite two way winger
10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 2
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Mantha is not overrated. He is a top 12 rw in the league. Elite two way winger


What?????
10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 3
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10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 10
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Pasta konecny marner kuch (1 of stamkos point) laine arvy kane wheeler rantanen tarasenko matty tkachuk stone
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Mantha is not overrated. He is a top 12 rw in the league. Elite two way winger
10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 38
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Mantha is mad overrated and thats a hell of a lot to pay for anyone


You're kidding right, The only decent pieces in the whole deal is Sorokin. The rest you can keep.
10 févr. 2021 à 19 h 58
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The one I proposed or with wahlstrom?


Either?
10 févr. 2021 à 20 h 35
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Either?


Yeah I’d be fine with giving up either of them for mantha, probably not both though.
10 févr. 2021 à 21 h 11
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Yeah I’d be fine with giving up either of them for mantha, probably not both though.


I wasn't sure he was worth one of them with what else was being given up. Looking at wouldn't you rather lose Wahlstrom because you are getting a some what similar player and everyone is always talking about how is so hard to find at that level?
10 févr. 2021 à 21 h 12
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Who’s gonna be our goalie of the future? Varly can’t play forever. Let’s give him a sample size of more than 3 games before we trade him.
10 févr. 2021 à 21 h 15
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I wasn't sure he was worth one of them with what else was being given up. Looking at wouldn't you rather lose Wahlstrom because you are getting a some what similar player and everyone is always talking about how is so hard to find at that level?


Yes but I think Detroit would prefer sorokin.
10 févr. 2021 à 21 h 17
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Who’s gonna be our goalie of the future? Varly can’t play forever. Let’s give him a sample size of more than 3 games before we trade him.


I think sorokin is going to be elite, but we don’t have problems developing goaltenders...mantha is already elite and lee, bailey are going to regress eventually
10 févr. 2021 à 21 h 20
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I think sorokin is going to be elite, but we don’t have problems developing goaltenders...mantha is already elite and lee, bailey are going to regress eventually

We don’t have problems developing goaltenders? Have you seen the number of goaltenders we’ve had over the past decade. We finally have a guy that we can potentially rely on for the next decade. I’d do the trade if you take out sorokin and add wahlstrom but elite goal tenders are hard to come by.
10 févr. 2021 à 21 h 28
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Yes but I think Detroit would prefer sorokin.


Personally I'd rather have Wahlstrom because I'm not a fan of the high end expensive goalie. I think you can find a goalie to fit your team. But Yzerman obviously is because he took Vasilevskiy in the first round and it would be his decision. So you are probably correct in offering Sorokin over Wahlstrom.
10 févr. 2021 à 22 h 39
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We don’t have problems developing goaltenders? Have you seen the number of goaltenders we’ve had over the past decade. We finally have a guy that we can potentially rely on for the next decade. I’d do the trade if you take out sorokin and add wahlstrom but elite goal tenders are hard to come by.


Let me reiterate...we have arguably the best goaltending coach in NHL history who can turn an avg G into an above average G - fans think its trotz system, that's a very small part of it. Korn is the goalie guru, and while id like to keep sorokin id give him up to acquire an elite 1st line winger in his prime.
10 févr. 2021 à 22 h 46
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Personally I'd rather have Wahlstrom because I'm not a fan of the high end expensive goalie. I think you can find a goalie to fit your team. But Yzerman obviously is because he took Vasilevskiy in the first round and it would be his decision. So you are probably correct in offering Sorokin over Wahlstrom.


I don't think signing goaltenders to long term deals when theyre UFA at 30 or 31 is a good idea, but sorokin is only 25. I'd either give him a 5-6 year deal after this season and bet on his upside or give him a 1 year deal and sign him long term deal when he's 27.
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10 févr. 2021 à 23 h 21
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Let me reiterate...we have arguably the best goaltending coach in NHL history who can turn an avg G into an above average G - fans think its trotz system, that's a very small part of it. Korn is the goalie guru, and while id like to keep sorokin id give him up to acquire an elite 1st line winger in his prime.

He’s not god though you’re not gonna do that with every goaltender and elite goal tenders are hard to come by and I’m not giving him up for someone who’s never had a 50 point season.
10 févr. 2021 à 23 h 27
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He’s not god though you’re not gonna do that with every goaltender and elite goal tenders are hard to come by and I’m not giving him up for someone who’s never had a 50 point season.


Robin Lehner and varlamov have both played at an elite level on the isles. Mitch Korn is God.

Mantha was almost at a PPG last season - he's one of the best two way wingers in the league. He's elite and a bonafide 1st line winger.
11 févr. 2021 à 0 h 7
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I don't think signing goaltenders to long term deals when theyre UFA at 30 or 31 is a good idea, but sorokin is only 25. I'd either give him a 5-6 year deal after this season and bet on his upside or give him a 1 year deal and sign him long term deal when he's 27.


That is very true.
11 févr. 2021 à 0 h 56
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Robin Lehner and varlamov have both played at an elite level on the isles. Mitch Korn is God.

Mantha was almost at a PPG last season - he's one of the best two way wingers in the league. He's elite and a bonafide 1st line winger.
then put together a package that doesn’t involve giving up our top prospect at this point I’d rather try and develop the young guys than give up sorokin for someone who hasn’t scored 50 points and is struggling this year.
 
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