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Créé par: jfrojelin
Date de création initiale: jan 9, 2021
Publié: 9 jan à 22 h 29
Équipe: 2021-22 Sharks de San Jose
Explications
thoughts?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Donato, Ryan22 500 000 $
True, Alex2900 000 $
Gregor, Noah21 500 000 $
Mete, Victor11 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Goodrow, Barclay12 000 000 $
Dzingel, Ryan23 700 000 $
Palmieri, Kyle25 900 000 $
Grubauer, Philipp23 400 000 $
Transactions
SJS
  1. 2021 4e round pick (CAR)
  2. 2022 5e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Kane, Evander
Détails additionnels:
above average 5v5 guy, who knows if he'd waive his clause, or if this is the team that would do this
SJS
    seattle
    CAR
    1. Burns, Brent
    2. 2022 3e round pick (SJS)
    3. 2021 4e round pick (CAR)
    SJS
    1. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
    MTL
    1. Simek, Radim
    2. 2022 4e round pick (SJS)
    Détails additionnels:
    gross term get simek out
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    2022
    SJS
    SJS
    CAR
    SJS
    SJS
    MIN
    2023
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    SJS
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $75 091 666 $0 $1 707 500 $6 408 334 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    SJS
    Meier, Timo
    6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    SJS
    Couture, Logan
    8 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Palmieri, Kyle
    5 900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    SJS
    Leonard, John
    925 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Hertl, Tomas
    5 625 000 $
    C, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Labanc, Kevin
    4 725 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    SJS
    Donato, Ryan
    2 500 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Gregor, Noah
    1 500 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Dzingel, Ryan
    3 700 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Goodrow, Barclay
    2 000 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    SJS
    Chmelevski, Alexander
    778 333 $
    C
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    True, Alex
    900 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    SJS
    Ferraro, Mario
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Karlsson, Erik
    11 500 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Grubauer, Philipp
    3 400 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Mete, Victor
    1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Merkley, Ryan
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
    SJS
    Melnichuk, Alexei
    925 000 $
    G
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
    7 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    SJS
    Pasichnuk, Brinson
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    SJS
    Middleton, Jacob
    725 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    SJS
    Kellman, Joel
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    C
    UFA - 1
    SJS
    Jones, Martin
    5 750 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    SJS
    Jones, Martin
    2 000 000 $ (875 000 $)
    G
    UFA - 1

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    9 jan à 22 h 36
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    Cost substantially more than that to dump that albatross of a contract that’s Burns 1&4 minimum
    Montreal isn’t going to give you Mete to take a salary dump mid level prospect and a 2 or 3 minimum
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    9 jan à 22 h 48
    #2
    Bcarlo25
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    I would honestly be very surprised if donato is in the NHL next year. I’ll be even more surprised if Seattle picks up burns.
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    9 jan à 22 h 50
    #3
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    If you put gross term get(insert player name here) out you’re not getting a top d-prospect for the dump and a 4th
    9 jan à 22 h 50
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Cost substantially more than that to dump that albatross of a contract that’s Burns 1&4 minimum
    Montreal isn’t going to give you Mete to take a salary dump mid level prospect and a 2 or 3 minimum


    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)
    9 jan à 22 h 52
    #5
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)

    I didn’t think so but even if they were they wouldn’t do so for the type of deal he was offering was the point I was making that wasn’t even a realistic deal if they had the salary cap space
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    9 jan à 23 h 00
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)


    Josh Anderson... Paul Byron... Shea Weber... Carey Price...
    9 jan à 23 h 06
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Josh Anderson... Paul Byron... Shea Weber... Carey Price...


    None of which are bad contracts... We can argue Price because he's a goalie, but if he's hot he will win games by himself.
    9 jan à 23 h 07
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    None of which are bad contracts... We can argue Price because he's a goalie, but if he's hot he will win games by himself.

    Any contract paying Jonathan Drouin sorry I can’t stand him
    9 jan à 23 h 08
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Any contract paying Jonathan Drouin sorry I can’t stand him


    That doesn't make him a bad contract. There are many players that I hate, but that doesn't mean they don't do their job
    9 jan à 23 h 10
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    That doesn't make him a bad contract. There are many players that I hate, but that doesn't mean they don't do their job


    Serious question Montréal’s up by a goal five minutes left. How many minutes does Jonathan Drouin get?Don’t count a possible Montreal power-play does he get 30 seconds. Maybe if Montreal has an offense of zone face-off maybe
    9 jan à 23 h 11
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    Serious question Montréal’s up by a goal five minutes left. How many minutes does Jonathan Drouin get?Don’t count a possible Montreal power-play does he get 30 seconds


    Julien rolls the first 3 lines, So I would say about 1:30 Drouin would get 5v5.
    9 jan à 23 h 12
    #12
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Julien rolls the first 3 lines, So I would say about 1:30 Drouin would get 5v5.

    I think you’re being generous
    9 jan à 23 h 13
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I think you’re being generous


    I'm not whatsoever. If anything, I'm being conservative.
    9 jan à 23 h 14
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I think you’re being generous


    I'm thinking Julien's first choice is the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line and then 2nd it's the Drouin line. This year is might even be his first choice as I believe Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a real game changer line.
    9 jan à 23 h 14
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I'm not whatsoever. If anything, I'm being conservative.


    I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you
    9 jan à 23 h 15
    #16
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I'm thinking Julien's first choice is the Tatar-Danault-Gallagher line and then 2nd it's the Drouin line. This year is might even be his first choice as I believe Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson is a real game changer line.

    You are really trusting Drouin late in the game with a slim lead Bad call
    9 jan à 23 h 16
    #17
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you


    If we were talking about Defending a lead then I agree with you, but Drouin is one of our best offense creating wingers. What line would you think is going to be out there for the last 5 minutes?
    9 jan à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    You are really trusting Drouin late in the game with a slim lead Bad call


    It's not like he's the center. He's there to create offense and he does it quite well.
    9 jan à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    If we were talking about Defending a lead then I agree with you, but Drouin is one of our best offense creating wingers. What line would you think is going to be out there for the last 5 minutes?

    That’s what I said you were up by a goal five minutes left
    9 jan à 23 h 17
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    That’s what I said you were up by a goal five minutes left


    I must've read it wrong. Drouin isn't very good defensively so obviously he wouldn't be the top choice, but that's not what he is here for.
    9 jan à 23 h 19
    #21
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    I must've read it wrong. Drouin isn't very good defensively so obviously he wouldn't be the top choice, but that's not what he is here for.

    I understand he’s there for offenses but you can’t be a complete defensive albatross like Drouin either
    9 jan à 23 h 19
    #22
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    Montreal isn't taking on the Salary because we don't have the space. Unless we are giving you a bad contract bad (although we don't really have one)


    Paul Byron, 7 years for Josh Anderson, kinda Kulak just because y'alls depth, Weber, and I didn't even have to look
    9 jan à 23 h 21
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    Quoting: Bolts_Fan_Dan
    I understand he’s there for offenses but you can’t be a complete defensive albatross like Drouin either


    Drouin isn't a complete disaster defensively. He's not good, but like I said, he's not here for his defense.
    9 jan à 23 h 21
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    Quoting: jfrojelin
    Paul Byron, 7 years for Josh Anderson, kinda Kulak just because y'alls depth, Weber, and I didn't even have to look


    None of those players have bad contracts. Look at their advanced stats and you will see otherwise.
    9 jan à 23 h 25
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    Quoting: HabsForEver
    None of those players have bad contracts. Look at their advanced stats and you will see otherwise.


    Price I forgot about. And sure currently those players are worth it currently(not Byron because he's rarely in the lineup and y'all have possibly some of the best wing depth in the league) but Weber isn't going to age well, sadly. I do think the trade doesn't make too much sense for the habs (tho the value is fair just not the situation) because of the mass amounts of re-signing they have to do this offseason
     
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