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Créé par: digitalbath
Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 24 déc. 2020
Publié: 24 déc. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I feel these trades are pretty realistic on returns, but i believe helm holds good bottom 6 grit value and a number of teams would be interested especially with half salary being retained.
Transactions
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DET
  1. Martinez, Alec
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
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DET
  1. Alnefelt, Hugo [Liste de réserve]
  2. Johnson, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
TBL
    Future Considerations
    3.
    DET
    1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Helm, Darren (1 925 000 $ retained)
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    24 déc. 2020 à 0 h 47
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    Tampa isn’t giving up the goalie and Doesn’t need the cap space no where near that bad. I put together a team signs Cirelli 4.1 mil makes no other trades and is 650k under cap if I can do it so, can JBB only adding was Cirelli no departures put coburn and Paquette on taxi squad 650k+ under
    24 déc. 2020 à 0 h 53
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    Absolutely. Also always a good sign for a rebuilding team when they have enough picks to bulge out the cap friendly year column double wide. Good stuff 👍

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    24 déc. 2020 à 0 h 55
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    Tampa isn’t giving up the goalie and Doesn’t need the cap space no where near that had. I put together a team signs Cirelli 4.1 mil makes no other trades and is 650k under cap if I can do it so, can JBB only adding was Cirelli no departures put coburn and Paquette on taxi squad 650k+ under


    Suggesting NHL gms are better at managing teams than most capfriendly users is, well, bold... and I don't mean that as a compliment to folks here 😐
    24 déc. 2020 à 0 h 55
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Absolutely. Also always a good sign for a rebuilding team when they have enough picks to bulge out the cap friendly year column double wide. Good stuff 👍

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    See above
    24 déc. 2020 à 0 h 57
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    Vegas isn't paying to move Martinez.
    24 déc. 2020 à 0 h 58
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    That trade is delusional not a chance in hell JBB does it so why say how smart an idea it is because it isn’t.
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 2
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    Tampa isn’t giving up the goalie and Doesn’t need the cap space no where near that bad. I put together a team signs Cirelli 4.1 mil makes no other trades and is 650k under cap if I can do it so, can JBB only adding was Cirelli no departures put coburn and Paquette on taxi squad 650k+ under


    Hes getting more than 4.1 so your solution is incorrect, they stil have to move someone out and TJ is the odd man out, even with Kuch on LTIR, they are gonna have to move someone, and TJ contract is worth a 1st+
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 3
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    Quoting: MisstheWhalers
    Vegas isn't paying to move Martinez.


    They absolutely would pay to move him, they gotta move someone, no teams that would want him can take on his contract.
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 5
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    Modifié 24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 10
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    Hes getting more than 4.1 so your solution is incorrect, they stil have to move someone out and TJ is the odd man out, even with Kuch on LTIR, they are gonna have to move someone, and TJ contract is worth a 1st+
    no probably not but even say 4.7 I’m still 58,000 under
    He actually probably signs 3.9 -4.2
    Players will take a little less with no state income tax and a legit chance at a cup every year
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 11
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    Quoting: Bolts20Cup
    no probably not but even say 4.7 I’m still 58,000 under


    So if youre him, you are ok being paid less than TJ? Or gourde? I dont think hes going to get 6+ but i do think you are being too optimistic, even on a bridge deal 5-5.5 why assume hes gonna take less than TJ? who got WAIVED and 0 teams took him, FOR FREE.. like come on, TB is in a bit of a bind and everyone assumes Yzerman or Fitzgerald are going to bail them out for nothing, or that Cirelli is going to take a pay cut to make sure this cap solution is easy on Bris..
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 12
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    So if youre him, you are ok being paid less than TJ? Or gourde? I dont think hes going to get 6+ but i do think you are being too optimistic, even on a bridge deal 5-5.5 why assume hes gonna take less than TJ? who got WAIVED and 0 teams took him, FOR FREE.. like come on, TB is in a bit of a bind and everyone assumes Yzerman or Fitzgerald are going to bail them out for nothing, or that Cirelli is going to take a pay cut to make sure this cap solution is easy on Bris..
    25$ bet to the charity of the others choice?
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 12
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    They absolutely would pay to move him, they gotta move someone, no teams that would want him can take on his contract.

    They have the leverage on any Martinez deal. They’re only 1 mil over and worst case scenario they can retain 2 mil on his contract and rock a 22 man roster. However, more than likely they’ll just flip Mcnabb for low value.
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 14
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    25$ bet to the charity of the others choice?[
    24 déc. 2020 à 1 h 21
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    So if youre him, you are ok being paid less than TJ? Or gourde? I dont think hes going to get 6+ but i do think you are being too optimistic, even on a bridge deal 5-5.5 why assume hes gonna take less than TJ? who got WAIVED and 0 teams took him, FOR FREE.. like come on, TB is in a bit of a bind and everyone assumes Yzerman or Fitzgerald are going to bail them out for nothing, or that Cirelli is going to take a pay cut to make sure this cap solution is easy on Bris..

    I just adjusted paid Cirelli 5 mil and still have 133k moved Paquette of taxi squad Johnson on McElhinney on Gibson as backup goalie absolutely no trade every player is on roster
    24 déc. 2020 à 3 h 17
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    Quoting: Radu47
    Suggesting NHL gms are better at managing teams than most capfriendly users is, well, bold... and I don't mean that as a compliment to folks here 😐


    https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2145209 here is why they don’t need a salary dump stop being an ignorant fool
    24 déc. 2020 à 3 h 24
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    Please someone give me a reasonable rationale why Edmonton gives a 3&6 for Helm? On what planet does that make any sense?
    24 déc. 2020 à 10 h 43
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    Quoting: digitalbath
    They absolutely would pay to move him, they gotta move someone, no teams that would want him can take on his contract.


    Vegas can go with a 20 man lineup and send Holden to the taxi squad to get themselves cap compliant.
     
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