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A perfect finish to the offseason

Créé par: sabertooth12
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 12 oct. 2020
Publié: 12 oct. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is no doubt a playoff team with no holes on the roster, given these moves
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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22 000 000 $
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BUF
  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob [Liste de réserve]
  2. Nilsson, Anders
Détails additionnels:
This deal might seem like a huge L for the Sabres but hear me out:
Nilsson is worth way less than Risto and is a relatively cheap, but solid goalie. Significant upgrade from Hutton
Docker is worth a small bit more or maybe the same as Mitts.
A pick or so might need to go on OTT's side to even it out, but the Sabres saving around 4m in cap space makes it even imo
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BUF
  1. Toews, Devon [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
I question whether the Isles can afford him and need him based on the left side of their defense being held down for the foreseeable future with Pelech (who is a better player that they should take priority in signing over Toews), Leddy, and Hickey. They have Sebastion Aho (who is already NHL ready imo) and Robin Salo coming up in the future as well.

This exact same deal could be for Vince Dunn on STL as well, but this one seems more realistic
NYI
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
2019 first round pick and a second next year
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DD
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12 oct. 2020 à 13 h 40
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They would buyout Leddy before getting rid of toews. For the isles to consider moving him, an A forward prospect + or top 6 winger would have to be going to the isles.
12 oct. 2020 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: Isles777
They would buyout Leddy before getting rid of toews. For the isles to consider moving him, an A forward prospect + or top 6 winger would have to be going to the isles.


You really think he is worth that much? He has one proven year at the NHL level at the age of 26. I would also think you would want picks/prospects back for him considering you will need a ton of cap to resign Barzal/Pulock/Pelech/Beauvillier/Sorokin in the next two years. That's like $25-30m hit towards the cap. Would you let Pelech go before Toews? And how much extra cap would you get from buying out Leddy?
12 oct. 2020 à 13 h 50
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The issue with moving toews is he’s (at worst) gonna peak out as a top 4 puck moving dman who has a ton of potential to be a top pairing defenseman I think they’d get better offers than this
12 oct. 2020 à 13 h 50
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You really think he is worth that much? He has one proven year at the NHL level at the age of 26. I would also think you would want picks/prospects back for him considering you will need a ton of cap to resign Barzal/Pulock/Pelech/Beauvillier/Sorokin in the next two years. That's like $25-30m hit towards the cap. Would you let Pelech go before Toews? And how much extra cap would you get from buying out Leddy?


He has elite underlying numbers and he should have been in the NHL much earlier. He's our PP1 QB and best offensive defenseman while being borderline elite defensively. He plays on the 2nd pairing, but he brings top line value. I personally would trade pelech before toews.

Apparently there is interest in leddy and the isles have taken calls on him recently, but worst case scenario if they buy him out it saves 4.25 mill this season. His contract is very buyout friendly. Theres also rumors the isles are close to moving boychuk, so well see if that ends up happening.

By next offseason, Bailey and varlamov will be traded/taken by Seattle. Mayfield can be traded considering wilde is about a year away.
12 oct. 2020 à 14 h 8
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Quoting: Isles777
He has elite underlying numbers and he should have been in the NHL much earlier. He's our PP1 QB and best offensive defenseman while being borderline elite defensively. He plays on the 2nd pairing, but he brings top line value. I personally would trade pelech before toews.

Apparently there is interest in leddy and the isles have taken calls on him recently, but worst case scenario if they buy him out it saves 4.25 mill this season. His contract is very buyout friendly. Theres also rumors the isles are close to moving boychuk, so well see if that ends up happening.

By next offseason, Bailey and varlamov will be traded/taken by Seattle. Mayfield can be traded considering wilde is about a year away.


I would assume Mittelstadt and a top LD prospect/pick would not move the needle? I don't watch the islanders so I didn't know how critical he was to the D-core. It just seems like the Isles are coming into a hell of a cap crunch and it will be tough to keep everybody. Do you agree?
12 oct. 2020 à 14 h 12
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I don't think Ottawa would move JBD nor should they, he's a beast
12 oct. 2020 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: sabertooth12
I would assume Mittelstadt and a top LD prospect/pick would not move the needle? I don't watch the islanders so I didn't know how critical he was to the D-core. It just seems like the Isles are coming into a hell of a cap crunch and it will be tough to keep everybody. Do you agree?


They would ask for Quinn/cozens or olofsson. If the isles are trading arguably their most valuable defenseman, they need to take advantage. Doubt they’ll move toews though.

Worst case scenario They’ll buyout 2 contracts like Nashville did (Leddy + clutterbuck) which gives them an additional 5.9 mill in cap space. Then they can use futures to dump one of komarov or hickey. That would give them roughly 18.5 mill in cap space.
12 oct. 2020 à 14 h 37
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Quoting: sabertooth12
I would assume Mittelstadt and a top LD prospect/pick would not move the needle? I don't watch the islanders so I didn't know how critical he was to the D-core. It just seems like the Isles are coming into a hell of a cap crunch and it will be tough to keep everybody. Do you agree?


He's not as critical as he's making him out to be. You'd think this guy is related to Toews with how obsessed he is at overrating him on this website.

Is he good and a top 4 dman? Yes.
Is he critical to the isles success? No.

On the isles defensive depth chart, he's at fourth behind pelech, pulock, dobson. If isles were presented an opportunity to package him with someone for a top-line guy I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Would Buffalo be open to trading either Olofsson or Reinhart for Toews+?
12 oct. 2020 à 14 h 45
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He's not as critical as he's making him out to be. You'd think this guy is related to Toews with how obsessed he is at overrating him on this website.

Is he good and a top 4 dman? Yes.
Is he critical to the isles success? No.

On the isles defensive depth chart, he's at fourth behind pelech, pulock, dobson. If isles were presented an opportunity to package him with someone for a top-line guy I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Would Buffalo be open to trading either Olofsson or Reinhart for Toews+?


Facts matter, you peasant.
12 oct. 2020 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: gortonsfishsticks27
He's not as critical as he's making him out to be. You'd think this guy is related to Toews with how obsessed he is at overrating him on this website.

Is he good and a top 4 dman? Yes.
Is he critical to the isles success? No.

On the isles defensive depth chart, he's at fourth behind pelech, pulock, dobson. If isles were presented an opportunity to package him with someone for a top-line guy I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Would Buffalo be open to trading either Olofsson or Reinhart for Toews+?


Probably not this offseason, but maybe next. It would depend on the situation with Hall and Cozen's development. We would probably rather offer draft picks and guys like Mittelstadt, Ryan Johnson (LD, 2019 31st overall pick), or Samuelsson (LD, 2018 32nd overall pick), but I'm not sure that would enticing enough
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12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: Isles777
Facts matter, you peasant.


Struck a nerve I see. Maybe I'm onto something with this obsession thing.
12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 3
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Probably not this offseason, but maybe next. It would depend on the situation with Hall and Cozen's development. We would probably rather offer draft picks and guys like Mittelstadt, Ryan Johnson (LD, 2019 31st overall pick), or Samuelsson (LD, 2018 32nd overall pick), but I'm not sure that would enticing enough


that's fair. Unfortunately, I can't see the isles flipping him for prospects/picks unless the prospect is ready to step him. Our window is the next couple of years so we'll have to capitalize.
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12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 17
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Quoting: gortonsfishsticks27
Struck a nerve I see. Maybe I'm onto something with this obsession thing.


Just calling it how I see it - all your takes are subjective.
12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 26
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Just calling it how I see it - all your takes are subjective.


I'm so happy I never have to see your awful toews takes again.

Look, he got us exactly what hes worth. A couple of 2nds.
12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 26
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I'm so happy I never have to see your awful toews takes again.

Look, he got us exactly what hes worth. A couple of 2nds.


The isles are going to miss the playoffs next season. You’re an idiot
12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 28
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The isles are going to miss the playoffs next season. You’re an idiot


Lol oh god you're delusional.
12 oct. 2020 à 16 h 30
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Lol oh god you're delusional.


Lol I just saw the trade, this is freaking hilarious. The Sabres are stupid to have not offered that frown
 
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