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Créé par: Barnsuelo
Équipe: 2020-21 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2020
Publié: 10 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
56 500 000 $
1950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (DET)
2.
DET
  1. Neal, James
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $68 731 624 $0 $2 070 000 $12 768 376 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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874 125 $874 125 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
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3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
714 166 $714 166 $ (Bonis de performance157 500 $$158K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
DD
RFA - 4
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894 166 $894 166 $
DG
RFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
6 083 333 $6 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1

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10 sept. 2020 à 19 h 34
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Taking fluery is 2 2nds but paying for half of fluery and all of Neal has to be more than a 1st. Neal alone is a 1st
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10 sept. 2020 à 19 h 37
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Oilers decline. That's ridiculous for a guy who's only overpaid by about 2.5M
10 sept. 2020 à 19 h 57
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Based on the comments above Wings fans & Oilers fans clearly value Neal differently.
10 sept. 2020 à 20 h 15
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Quoting: Barnsuelo
Based on the comments above Wings fans & Oilers fans clearly value Neal differently.


He’s a PP specialist signed for 3 more years until he’s 36 @5.75M. I’d wager his production goes down further throughout the contract. That coupled with retaining 3.5M for 2 years is like paying Neal 9.25M.
10 sept. 2020 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: BStinson
He’s a PP specialist signed for 3 more years until he’s 36 @5.75M. I’d wager his production goes down further throughout the contract. That coupled with retaining 3.5M for 2 years is like paying Neal 9.25M.


So at the end of the day DET gives up 9.25 mil for 2 yrs, 5.75 in yr 3, and gets an aging winger, is that worth a 1sr & 2 2nds?

Yeah this is an unrealistic trade that wouldn’t happen but is the value way off?
10 sept. 2020 à 21 h 18
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Quoting: Barnsuelo
So at the end of the day DET gives up 9.25 mil for 2 yrs, 5.75 in yr 3, and gets an aging winger, is that worth a 1sr & 2 2nds?

Yeah this is an unrealistic trade that wouldn’t happen but is the value way off?


Idk has anyone taken such a big cash dump before. I cant really think of 1.
10 sept. 2020 à 21 h 48
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Idk has anyone taken such a big cash dump before. I cant really think of 1.


Yeah I cant think of anything that was in the 9.25 neighborhood. Rangers might be the closest in 18 when they moved Nash and retained 3.9 & they also moved MacDonagh & Miller but the Wings don’t have those type of assets
11 sept. 2020 à 0 h 11
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So at the end of the day DET gives up 9.25 mil for 2 yrs, 5.75 in yr 3, and gets an aging winger, is that worth a 1sr & 2 2nds?

Yeah this is an unrealistic trade that wouldn’t happen but is the value way off?

I guess it depends on how you value the cap in this flat cap/COVID. I don’t think you can say it’s 9.25M x 2 years and 5.75M for the third year because Neal still could play. The way I determine value would be how much would you pay for Neal if he asked for the same contract duration? 3M? 3.5M? Let’s say it’s 3M for simple math, I’d calculate the dump as the useful value - current contract so 3M - 5.75M gives you 2.75M as a dump for each of those 3 years plus the retention on Flower 3.5M for two years. So that’s 8.25M from Neal plus 7M from Flower or 15.25M spread over 3 years. It’s hard to determine if those picks are enough because trades like this never happen and those picks are 2-3 drafts out and therefore undetermined so they could be 1OV-32OV. That first is also 2022 so let’s say they don’t bust they’re most likely 3-4 years out from draft unless a top 5/10 pick so your talking about a potential player in the 2025-26 season.
 
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