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Oilers 2020

Créé par: matchen83
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 3 sept. 2020
Publié: 3 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
2750 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
11 900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
35 250 000 $
21 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
FLA
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas [Droits de RFA]
3.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (WSH)
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
5.
EDM
  1. Howden, Brett
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de PHI
Logo de FLA
Logo de WSH
Logo de WPG
Logo de NYR
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2021
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de EDM
2022
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 669 365 $341 534 $730 000 $830 635 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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3 sept. 2020 à 19 h 2
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Ban Price trades
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By way of draft pick values alone, not enough coming back to Edmonton in the Philadelphia trade. Any trade for Edmonton's pick - mathematically - that involves a pick later than #19, would essentially require a supplementary late first in order to be considered a fair deal. The only other workaround to that is through quantity or by doing Edmonton a cap favour.

For the mathematical elements of this post, I'll be referring to: https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/

The difference in value between Edmonton's pick (#14, valued at 21.1) and the two Philadelphia picks (assuming #28 and #59, values of 10.7 and 3.6) is just shy of pick #33, which carries a value of 8.0.

In the event Edmonton genuinely is considering trading down, this trade should be considered a loss. That is significant value left on the table, and I couldn't pull the trigger on that trade without a name like Bobby Brink being added to the deal, given he was picked last year in proximity to the 33rd pick (assuming Edmonton in turn, adds a touch on their end to compensate for Brink's higher D+1 value). I'd think it would be reasonable for Flyers fans to turn their nose down at that deal. That's a lot to table for the #14 pick, and I don't think there's a name in that range the Flyers would be that desperate to jump for.

I think Holland's intent behind trading the #14 pick back into the later stages of the first round is built around the idea of acquiring an NHL-ready player in the deal as well. Either a piece they can immediately add to the top-nine forwards or a goaltender ready to platoon with Koskinen. I don't think the endgame here is strictly draft picks, and I don't think there exists a dance partner for the Oilers if their motive is magic beans in exchange for #14.

I think Athanasiou's value is closer to a 3rd and a 5th. Mathematically, it's below the 50%-value he was acquired for and Holland tipped too much of his hand. Andreas is immediately a buy-low-win-high candidate and expecting even 50% value is a stretch. I think you're too high on the returns for Chiasson and Russell as well. The flat cap and how it's going to affect teams during its tenure cannot be understated.

I fail to understand the rationale behind that New York trade.
3 sept. 2020 à 21 h 8
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Boris Bagel
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3 sept. 2020 à 22 h 31
#3
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
By way of draft pick values alone, not enough coming back to Edmonton in the Philadelphia trade. Any trade for Edmonton's pick - mathematically - that involves a pick later than #19, would essentially require a supplementary late first in order to be considered a fair deal. The only other workaround to that is through quantity or by doing Edmonton a cap favour.

For the mathematical elements of this post, I'll be referring to: https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/

The difference in value between Edmonton's pick (#14, valued at 21.1) and the two Philadelphia picks (assuming #28 and #59, values of 10.7 and 3.6) is just shy of pick #33, which carries a value of 8.0.

In the event Edmonton genuinely is considering trading down, this trade should be considered a loss. That is significant value left on the table, and I couldn't pull the trigger on that trade without a name like Bobby Brink being added to the deal, given he was picked last year in proximity to the 33rd pick (assuming Edmonton in turn, adds a touch on their end to compensate for Brink's higher D+1 value). I'd think it would be reasonable for Flyers fans to turn their nose down at that deal. That's a lot to table for the #14 pick, and I don't think there's a name in that range the Flyers would be that desperate to jump for.

I think Holland's intent behind trading the #14 pick back into the later stages of the first round is built around the idea of acquiring an NHL-ready player in the deal as well. Either a piece they can immediately add to the top-nine forwards or a goaltender ready to platoon with Koskinen. I don't think the endgame here is strictly draft picks, and I don't think there exists a dance partner for the Oilers if their motive is magic beans in exchange for #14.

I think Athanasiou's value is closer to a 3rd and a 5th. Mathematically, it's below the 50%-value he was acquired for and Holland tipped too much of his hand. Andreas is immediately a buy-low-win-high candidate and expecting even 50% value is a stretch. I think you're too high on the returns for Chiasson and Russell as well. The flat cap and how it's going to affect teams during its tenure cannot be understated.

I fail to understand the rationale behind that New York trade.


Thanks for the input on the trades. I never seen the value of picks have in a trade. I thought I heard that as an option on the OilersNow podcast.

Chaisson and Russell can be for any picks really, just doing what I’ve seen on here.

Rangers trade: watched Howden in WHL, just think he would be a good young player.
 
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