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Créé par: ElPhantasmo

Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary

Date de création initiale: 1 sept. 2020

Publié: 1 sept. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Tinkering with some moves that I published awhile ago and trying to be fairly impartial on assigning value to players.
Is this enough to entice Tampa to do the deal? They get some relief and control over costs and future assets while still plugging a huge hole when giving up Point.
Not sure of the value in the Philly deal - I'm buying low on Ghost and giving him 3rd-pairing duty. Lots of folks are down on his game but he's young enough to bounce back. I'm really unsure of Lindblom though. Where does he fit in the Philly org chart? Is he an untouchable? I really don't know and need some input. The deal is as revenue-neutral as I could make it.
Maybe we get Lehner as $6.25, maybe not. A lot is riding on whether Vegas can shed Fleury and we make a strong pitch where he sees us being a serious contender. Is this roster strong enough?

Please provide input as you see fit, so long as it's more than "XYZ declines". I'd really like to hear perspective and what some counter-proposals might look like.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Mangiapane, Andrew		3	2 500 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gustafsson, Erik	3	2 750 000 $
Bogosian, Zach	3	1 750 000 $
Lehner, Robin	5	6 250 000 $
Rieder, Tobias	2	950 000 $
Bourque, Gabriel	2	850 000 $
Soucy, Carson	2	850 000 $

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CGY

TBL

Hanifin, Noah
Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
Monahan, Sean
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)

CGY

Gostisbehere, Shayne (1 000 000 $ retained)
Lindblom, Oskar
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PHI)

PHI

Gaudreau, Johnny

CGY

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)

EDM

Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)

Détails additionnels:

Pretty certain the Grease will defer the pick

Rachats de contrats

Troy Brouwer: 1 500 000 $
Michael Stone: 1 166 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	76 080 832 $	0 $	457 500 $	5 419 168 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tkachuk, Matthew 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AD UFA - 2	Point, Brayden 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2	Lindholm, Elias 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
Gourde, Yanni 5 166 666 $5 166 666 $ C, AG, AD NTC UFA - 5	Backlund, Mikael 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C NTC UFA - 4	Mangiapane, Andrew 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Lindblom, Oskar 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Bennett, Sam 2 550 000 $2 550 000 $ C UFA - 1	Dubé, Dillon 778 333 $778 333 $ (32 500 $$32K) AG, AD, C RFA - 1
Lucic, Milan 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD NMC UFA - 3	Ryan, Derek 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
Bourque, Gabriel 850 000 $850 000 $ AD, AG UFA		Rieder, Tobias 950 000 $950 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Giordano, Mark 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Andersson, Rasmus 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DD UFA - 6	Rittich, David 1 375 000 $1 375 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Gustafsson, Erik 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG UFA - 1
Välimäki, Juuso 894 166 $894 166 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 1	Bogosian, Zach 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Lehner, Robin 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ G UFA - 5
Gostisbehere, Shayne 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3
Soucy, Carson 850 000 $850 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 29

Jfstompers

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If you think youre getting point out of Tampa you're crazy

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 32

ElPhantasmo

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Quoting: Jfstompers

If you think youre getting point out of Tampa you're crazy

It doesn't hurt to try. This is only exploring what a fair deal may look like, not whether the team actually accepts. Remember, negotiations have to have a starting point.

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 33

VGKNation702

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Lol Tampa laughs at that deal. No way they move point

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 35

ElPhantasmo

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Lol Tampa laughs at that deal. No way they move point

Again, probably not but see the above reply.

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 37

VGKNation702

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Quoting: ElPhantasmo

It doesn't hurt to try. This is only exploring what a fair deal may look like, not whether the team actually accepts. Remember, negotiations have to have a starting point.

Lol ok but theres zero negotiations to move point is the point

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 41

ElPhantasmo

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Quoting: VGKNation702

Lol ok but theres zero negotiations to move point is the point

That's fair, so what does Tampa do when no one in the league is generous enough to help them out of their cap hell without asking for a significant bit of pain for the Bolts? Who do they not sign and do they go with a 19-man roster all season? They aren't sitting in as lofty a perch as you assume.

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 48

Ryan_meyer98

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That oilers 3rd round pick should not have even been transferred in the first place. None of the conditions of the trade were met, and never would have been met even if the season went on to 82 games. Neal was injured and never would have scored 3 more goals, let alone played 10 more games. I don’t agree with the NHL’s decision on this one!

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1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 51

ElPhantasmo

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Quoting: Ryan_meyer98

That's true and I'm honestly shocked that the league awarded the pick. As much as I detest the Oilers, I agree that this wasn't fair and sets a poor precedent.

1 sept. 2020 à 16 h 52

ALitteral

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Just when I thought we were past the Gaudreau to Philly shenanigans....

GMCF on Lindblom: "Our organization believes wholeheartedly in Oskar, our players believe in him, AV and our coaching staff believe in him and I believe in him. We couldn’t be happier to have this three-year deal done. “As I said to him earlier today, this hopefully is the smallest contract you sign for the rest of your career."

GMCF on trading Ghost: "I’ve been here a year. I can’t say I'm always on social media but I’m amazed at how often I’m trading him. We were certainly not looking to move him.Teams have called me on him. Nothing really makes sense right now to me to move [him] unless we’re getting a really great impact player back in some area."

So... we'll ship out those two guys and two high draft picks for a player that is coming off a down year and into the deepest part of our depth chart. By the way he will be a UFA shortly.

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1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 3

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ElPhantasmo

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Quoting: ALitteral

Nice, that's the feedback I was looking for and am happy to receive! As I said, I had no clue where Lindblom fit in on the Flyers' depth chart or if he's an untouchable and you definitely answered that! Is there a deal to be made with Philly vis-a-vis a counter-proposal? Perhaps Morgan Frost and no retention, for instance, rather than OL? I believe there's little question JG would re-sign with Philly at the expiration of his current deal and I really hope you don't come back with, "He only has 2 years left, we'll sign him then..." 2 years is an eternity these days.

1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 13

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ALitteral

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Quoting: ElPhantasmo

The biggest issue is that we 1. don't have a ton of cap space and have big holes on RD and depth in net (maybe 3C if Patrick does not return although I expect him to be back fulltime next season), and 2. have six NHL-caliber LWs (Giroux, Lindblom, JVR, Farabee, Laughton, and Raffl).

I believe Gaudreau is good at hockey, will rebound from this season, and adds a great offensive game to almost any team. I just don't understand how to make it work without massive tinkering.

And yes, Lindblom is untouchable given his production in the shortened season, his 200-ft game, and his off-ice battle. There's just no way I could handle that this year.

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1 sept. 2020 à 17 h 54

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Quoting: ALitteral

Yikes! I see what you mean on cap space. If some of those performance bonuses hit, the overage penalties are going to be a killer next year. At least they might be able to spread it out over two years based on the new CBA. Looks like no way to make a deal there as we can't take back enough salary to compensate.

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1 sept. 2020 à 18 h 30

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Point and Headman are the only untouchables
The bolts would be open to moving any else for the right return.

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