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Créé par: DirtyDangle
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2020
Publié: 18 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
43 250 000 $
22 250 000 $
1850 000 $
35 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (COL)
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
2.
COL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)
OTT
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
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2022
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2381 500 000 $76 818 095 $0 $5 425 000 $4 681 905 $
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5 571 429 $5 571 429 $
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M-NTC
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AD
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 1
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3 333 333 $3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 7
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 450 000 $3 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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18 août 2020 à 10 h 33
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Leafs with an easy no.
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Id simplify that TOR trade, no need to get Engvall involved.
Zadorov + late pick for Kapanen.
Also I am not on board with just letting go of Jost yet (at least not for that return). Id much rather see Bellemare moved to F#13 and keep Jost.
Im also not sure about Kaut getting pushed out of the roster now.
This bottom 6F group is way too full.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Id simplify that TOR trade, no need to get Engvall involved.
Zadorov + late pick for Kapanen.
Also I am not on board with just letting go of Jost yet (at least not for that return). Id much rather see Bellemare moved to F#13 and keep Jost.
Im also not sure about Kaut getting pushed out of the roster now.
This bottom 6F group is way too full.

fair enough. i like engvall so id want him in that trade.

would much rather bellemare on the 4th than jost. he and calvert make that line run. i just dont see a spot for jost on next seasons roster. he needs time to get better and he doesnt have that here. unfortunate loss of being successful.
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fair enough. i like engvall so id want him in that trade.

would much rather bellemare on the 4th than jost. he and calvert make that line run. i just dont see a spot for jost on next seasons roster. he needs time to get better and he doesnt have that here. unfortunate loss of being successful.


The numbers support that Jost is arguably better than Compher (especially in possession and turnover rates) while giving you identical offensive production per 60mins (not to mention is cheaper)
https://leftwinglock.com/skater-compare/index.php?skill_input1=Tyson+Jost&skill_input2=J.T.+Compher&skill_input3=&skill_input4=&skill_input5=&skill_input6=&skill_input7=&skill_input8=&skill_input9=&skill_input10=&skill_input11=&skill_input12=

Sure Calvert and Bellemare move that line but they both have 1 year term left (and Bellemare will be 36 going on 37 when that deal ends).
I think you find a way to keep Jost unless they add a top 6F and he gets bumped out.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
The numbers support that Jost is arguably better than Compher (especially in possession and turnover rates) while giving you identical offensive production per 60mins (not to mention is cheaper)
https://leftwinglock.com/skater-compare/index.php?skill_input1=Tyson+Jost&skill_input2=J.T.+Compher&skill_input3=&skill_input4=&skill_input5=&skill_input6=&skill_input7=&skill_input8=&skill_input9=&skill_input10=&skill_input11=&skill_input12=

Sure Calvert and Bellemare move that line but they both have 1 year term left (and Bellemare will be 36 going on 37 when that deal ends).
I think you find a way to keep Jost unless they add a top 6F and he gets bumped out.


if numbers are telling you jost is better than compher than your numbers are wrong
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if numbers are telling you jost is better than compher than your numbers are wrong


I posted the link, look for yourself.
Jost with better SAT% and USAT% with similar ZS%.
+4 net TKA vs GVA
+25 more even strength SOG

Compher holds slight edge in points per /60mins (1.66 vs 1.61) but Jost probably gets paid half what Compher does.
Educate yourself and provide a better educated rebuttal
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I posted the link, look for yourself.
Jost with better SAT% and USAT% with similar ZS%.
+4 net TKA vs GVA
+25 more even strength SOG

Compher holds slight edge in points per /60mins (1.66 vs 1.61) but Jost probably gets paid half what Compher does.
Educate yourself and provide a better educated rebuttal


most advanced stats aren't worth the paper they are printed on. compher is in the regular lineup and jost is the 13th forward for a reason.
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most advanced stats aren't worth the paper they are printed on. compher is in the regular lineup and jost is the 13th forward for a reason.


Right, so dont back it up with any figures to support your stance, cool lol
neither Newhook or Byram are on the lineup, would you say Zadorov or Nieto/Bellemare are better? lol
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Right, so dont back it up with any figures to support your stance, cool lol
neither Newhook or Byram are on the lineup, would you say Zadorov or Nieto/Bellemare are better? lol


.. they're prospects.

stats like that are the reason why people thought kerfoot was an elite defensive center.

why do you think compher gets so much more ice time than jost?
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.. they're prospects.

stats like that are the reason why people thought kerfoot was an elite defensive center.

why do you think compher gets so much more ice time than jost?


Compher at 25 isnt a prospect.
Jost at 22 still is a prospect.
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Compher at 25 isnt a prospect.
Jost at 22 still is a prospect.


jost going on his 4th full season and doesnt have a spot in the top 12.
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jost going on his 4th full season and doesnt have a spot in the top 12.


damn you are clueless huh.
Explain to me how 6 games in 2016 at age 18 counts as a full season?
not to mention he played 67 of 70 games this season but you claim he doesnt have a spot. id expect 30+ healthy scratches if that was the case
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damn you are clueless huh.
Explain to me how 6 games in 2016 at age 18 counts as a full season?
not to mention he played 67 of 70 games this season but you claim he doesnt have a spot. id expect 30+ healthy scratches if that was the case


17-18, 18-19, 19-20. he's going on his 4th full season.

avs got namestnikov. jost got bumped out.
 
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