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Great deal for Ottawa

Créé par: frankiefives
Publié: 15 août 2020 à 11 h 21
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 41/186 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoBlackhawks de Chicago

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 15 325 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 1 336 667 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoCHI)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Georgiev, AlexandarRangers de New YorkLNH-792 500 $111-------3.040.91
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Jets de WinnipegWPG)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 988 333 $2545653612
Variation-792 500 $111-110
Final13 195 833 $ (↓)26 (↑)46 (↑)66 (↑)2 (↓)7 (↑)12000

Logo de Rangers de New YorkRangers de New York

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Smith, BrendanRangers de New YorkLNH-958 870 $111---62358--
Georgiev, AlexandarRangers de New YorkLNH-174 690 $111-------3.040.91
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Brown, LoganExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaMineures-0 $011---23178--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Blackhawks de ChicagoCHI)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Islanders de New YorkNYI)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial7 049 367 $2245614715
Variation1 133 560 $-2-1-1200
Final8 182 927 $ (↑)20 (↓)44 (↓)60 (↓)6 (↑)715-220

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Brown, LoganExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaMineures-0 $011---23178--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Islanders de New YorkNYI)---100------
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaOTT)---100------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Jets de WinnipegWPG)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Smith, BrendanRangers de New YorkLNH-958 870 $111---62358--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Rangers de New YorkNYR)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial11 686 708 $21456451212
Variation-958 870 $100-1-10
Final10 727 838 $ (↓)22 (↑)45644 (↓)11 (↓)122-20
15 août 2020 à 12 h 51
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Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + and nobody cares about Logan Brown.
15 août 2020 à 13 h 23
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This isnt enough for NYR to take him.

NYR adds Lias Anderson going to OTT, OTT adds Brannstrom going to NYR?
15 août 2020 à 13 h 36
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Do you really think the difference between 1st and 3rd is T Chabot plus.. Does NY really need a 8 million dollars cap hit on defense. I think LA could use a left wing and NY a centre so it seem to me LA and NY trade seem more likely to occurred. Ottawa not going to overpay for the 1 overall when they have other needs.
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15 août 2020 à 20 h 18
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Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + and nobody cares about Logan Brown.


LOL. Come on now. Lafreniere isn't McDavid
15 août 2020 à 20 h 19
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This isnt enough for NYR to take him.

NYR adds Lias Anderson going to OTT, OTT adds Brannstrom going to NYR?


I disagree. The Rangers get 3 first round picks in this deal plus they shed Brendan Smith's salary. Not to mention a prospect that still might have some NHL upside in Brown.
15 août 2020 à 20 h 21
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LOL. Come on now. Lafreniere isn't McDavid


Buddy, have you seen Laffy play? World juniors MVP? CHL MVP? This dude is the real deal. This is quite undervaluing him
15 août 2020 à 20 h 25
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Buddy, have you seen Laffy play? World juniors MVP? CHL MVP? This dude is the real deal. This is quite undervaluing him


I've seen him play a ton. He's a great player. He's nowhere near McDavid/Crosby level.
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I've seen him play a ton. He's a great player. He's nowhere near McDavid/Crosby level.


Fine. He’s not a surefire hall of farmer. But he is definitely worth more than you’re giving up
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Fine. He’s not a surefire hall of farmer. But he is definitely worth more than you’re giving up


Perhaps. That's the reason why I named this "great deal for Ottawa"
15 août 2020 à 23 h 53
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LOL. Come on now. Lafreniere isn't McDavid


No he's not but as with every potential first overall it will require a huge amount...especially with a team that desperately wants their superstar.
16 août 2020 à 10 h 33
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No he's not but as with every potential first overall it will require a huge amount...especially with a team that desperately wants their superstar.


There's zero chance Ottawa would trade #3 and Chabot. The Rangers would take that in a heartbeat knowing they just fleeced the Sens.
16 août 2020 à 10 h 35
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There's zero chance Ottawa would trade #3 and Chabot. The Rangers would take that in a heartbeat knowing they just fleeced the Sens.


I'm not saying they would, my point is that is what it would take.
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I'm not saying they would, my point is that is what it would take.


I completely disagree.
16 août 2020 à 14 h 57
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I completely disagree.


Sigh...so you don't think that any team with all the leverage because they have a pick that by all accounts they wouldn't trade unless they are blown away wouldn't ask to be...and I quote..."blown away"?? You don't think that GMs ask for unrealistic prices all the time in case someone is desperate or does something stupid?

Come on man
16 août 2020 à 15 h 12
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Sigh...so you don't think that any team with all the leverage because they have a pick that by all accounts they wouldn't trade unless they are blown away wouldn't ask to be...and I quote..."blown away"?? You don't think that GMs ask for unrealistic prices all the time in case someone is desperate or does something stupid?

Come on man


Your opinion of "blown away" seems to be the best player on a team plus the 3rd overall pick. It's ridiculous. Again, I disagree with your take. You can move along now.
16 août 2020 à 15 h 18
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Your opinion of "blown away" seems to be the best player on a team plus the 3rd overall pick. It's ridiculous. Again, I disagree with your take. You can move along now.


Hehe ok champ you are completely missing the point. I never said that they would do it, does that soothe your hurt feelings now?

Lol
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Hehe ok champ you are completely missing the point. I never said that they would do it, does that soothe your hurt feelings now?

Lol


"Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + "

You literally said the Rangers wouldn't trade Laf unless Ottawa STARTS with the 3rd, Chabot and more. What point am I missing? The fact that you're out to lunch?
16 août 2020 à 16 h 5
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"Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + "

You literally said the Rangers wouldn't trade Laf unless Ottawa STARTS with the 3rd, Chabot and more. What point am I missing? The fact that you're out to lunch?


Hoo boy. Ok I will try again but use smaller words. You are missing the point that I never said Pierre will call up say...here's a thought, I'll give you the 3 OA plus Chabot. The thing is that there has been no indication that they would trade the 1 OA...so beat with me here...so they can ask whatever they want from any team because unless their socks are blown off (that is a metaphor, not an indication of actual socks coming off by the way), they will happily keep him.

This probably happens around most 1OA picks, which (pay attention here) do not get traded anyway, but if a GM is desperate or dumb and they agree to something outrageous...they might do it.

So in summary, I am not saying they will offer that, but if they decide they want him...they will need to offer something stupid to get it done. If not? Nyr are happy with their star.

Are we done now?
17 août 2020 à 11 h 6
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Hoo boy. Ok I will try again but use smaller words. You are missing the point that I never said Pierre will call up say...here's a thought, I'll give you the 3 OA plus Chabot. The thing is that there has been no indication that they would trade the 1 OA...so beat with me here...so they can ask whatever they want from any team because unless their socks are blown off (that is a metaphor, not an indication of actual socks coming off by the way), they will happily keep him.

This probably happens around most 1OA picks, which (pay attention here) do not get traded anyway, but if a GM is desperate or dumb and they agree to something outrageous...they might do it.

So in summary, I am not saying they will offer that, but if they decide they want him...they will need to offer something stupid to get it done. If not? Nyr are happy with their star.

Are we done now?


So you're saying your initial post was wrong? I'll post it again for you:

"Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + "

Again, you said Ottawa is NOT getting #1 unless they START by offering the 3rd and Chabot plus more. You can keep pretending like you didn't say it but it's right there for everyone to read.

Take care.
17 août 2020 à 11 h 40
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So you're saying your initial post was wrong? I'll post it again for you:

"Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + "

Again, you said Ottawa is NOT getting #1 unless they START by offering the 3rd and Chabot plus more. You can keep pretending like you didn't say it but it's right there for everyone to read.

Take care.


Wow you're not that bright are you? How many times have I also said to explain to you because for some reason i need to. That they would ask for the moon and rightfully so...just like every other GM would. So they would ask for something like that (as said overpay). Now beer with me here so you don't get lost again...if they would want the pick...still with me? Good. Then they would need to overpay and it would...take...something...like...that.

Now for what I didn't say or imply:
1. They will offer that
2. They would do that

Now you're a bright guy, if you had something that everyone wanted...would you ask for something exorbitant (look that up) in case they would do something stupid? Yes you would or you would be a crappy gm. Again that is all I am saying

Can we stop now this now? It is getting frustrating. You can tell yourself that you are the king and beat me if you want. Even that you are the smartest guy in the world if you want.

Just stop, but learn to read and not foist your misinterpeted assumptions on me.

Are we good man? 😁
17 août 2020 à 12 h 28
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Wow you're not that bright are you? How many times have I also said to explain to you because for some reason i need to. That they would ask for the moon and rightfully so...just like every other GM would. So they would ask for something like that (as said overpay). Now beer with me here so you don't get lost again...if they would want the pick...still with me? Good. Then they would need to overpay and it would...take...something...like...that.

Now for what I didn't say or imply:
1. They will offer that
2. They would do that

Now you're a bright guy, if you had something that everyone wanted...would you ask for something exorbitant (look that up) in case they would do something stupid? Yes you would or you would be a crappy gm. Again that is all I am saying

Can we stop now this now? It is getting frustrating. You can tell yourself that you are the king and beat me if you want. Even that you are the smartest guy in the world if you want.

Just stop, but learn to read and not foist your misinterpeted assumptions on me.

Are we good man? 😁


You really hate being criticized, don't you? You keep repeating that the Rangers would ASK for something like that package. I don't necessarily disagree but that's not at all what you said in your original post. I made a proposal and your response was : "Ottawa is not getting the first overall pick unless they start with their third from San Jose, Chabot + "

It's written right there. You said Ottawa would need to start their offer with the 3rd, Chabot plus more. You're now back pedaling by saying you never said that. I expect you'll respond again because it seems you must have the last word so go ahead.
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