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Flyers Fans - Would You Do This

Créé par: BurnEmUp
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 25 juill. 2020
Publié: 26 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Basically valuing Johnny at two 1st round picks and a 2nd roughly.

Flames 2nd round pick = JVR retained
Johnny = Farabee, Healthy/Good Patrick, 2nd OR....
Johnny = Farabee, Hurt/Bad Patrick, 1st

If I'm not mistaken, Flyers top 9 would be:

Giroux - Couturier - Voracek
Johnny - Hayes - Konecny
Lindblom - Frost - XXXXX


Full roster for the Flames below with over $5,000,000 cap left to upgrade.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 250 000 $
1874 125 $
1787 500 $
1787 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
77 750 000 $
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Back up, Goalie
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Farabee, Joel
  2. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
  3. van Riemsdyk, James (1 000 000 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
2021 1st is conditional - if Patrick plays 50+ games or scores 40+ points in the 2020/21 season the pick downgrades to a 2021 2nd round pick.

If it's a shortened season the games played number above converts to percentage. (Eg. 50/82 = 61% or more of the Flames games)
PHI
  1. Gaudreau, Johnny
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DAL)
DAL
  1. van Riemsdyk, James (1 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Retained another $1,000,000 and flipped to a team looking for a top 6 LW (Dallas, Minny, etc...)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de SJS
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2021
Logo de CGY
Logo de PHI
Logo de DAL
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2022
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $67 675 791 $0 $1 382 500 $13 824 209 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
874 125 $874 125 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 550 000 $2 550 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
787 500 $787 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
787 500 $787 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Back up, Goalie
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
Logo de Flames de Calgary
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1

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26 juill. 2020 à 0 h 23
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They take that and run, Flames get fleeced here
26 juill. 2020 à 0 h 25
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Regardless what Flyers fans think......Calgary doesn’t do this anyway.
26 juill. 2020 à 0 h 33
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There’s no way the flames do that, this is a bad trade for Calgary. Flyers 10000000% accept
26 juill. 2020 à 1 h 16
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Lol so I'm not a homer all the time then?

Would love a Flyers fan or two to chime in.
26 juill. 2020 à 1 h 17
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
They take that and run, Flames get fleeced here


Quoting: flamesfan
There’s no way the flames do that, this is a bad trade for Calgary. Flyers 10000000% accept


If you change Patrick to Frost is this better for Calgary?

You guys know how good Farabee is right?
26 juill. 2020 à 1 h 21
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If you change Patrick to Frost is this better for Calgary?

You guys know how good Farabee is right?


The only way flyers are getting gaudreau is if they give up frost and konecny. Flyers fans will think that an overpay but that’s what it would cost
26 juill. 2020 à 1 h 26
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Quoting: flamesfan
The only way flyers are getting gaudreau is if they give up frost and konecny. Flyers fans will think that an overpay but that’s what it would cost


Yeah you're right they won't like that at all. I would love it haha

The other way they might get him is to wait two years and sign him when he's UFA
26 juill. 2020 à 1 h 34
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If you change Patrick to Frost is this better for Calgary?

You guys know how good Farabee is right?


Farabee is fine but he's still a mid 6 guy, Patrick may never play again, JVR is a cap dump here and won't fetch a 2nd in a flip and the first should be 2020 no conditions
26 juill. 2020 à 1 h 45
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Farabee is fine but he's still a mid 6 guy, Patrick may never play again, JVR is a cap dump here and won't fetch a 2nd in a flip and the first should be 2020 no conditions


Technically cant be a 2020 1st because if they did trade Gaudreau it likely wouldn't be until they've already signed Hall. Unless they've secured his rights before the draft the timing doesnt work.

Patrick's injury woes is why I put the condition on the 1st, but yeah its certainly risky. Flames would have to dig deep on him first and be supremely confident that he'd play.

JVR is still potting 20+ goals and 45+ points yearly. At $5 million AAV I would think he'd return a 2nd rounder easily, even with a flat cap. Jason Zucker just returned Galchenyuk, Calen Addison and a conditional 1st for a comparable.
26 juill. 2020 à 2 h 11
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Technically cant be a 2020 1st because if they did trade Gaudreau it likely wouldn't be until they've already signed Hall. Unless they've secured his rights before the draft the timing doesnt work.

Patrick's injury woes is why I put the condition on the 1st, but yeah its certainly risky. Flames would have to dig deep on him first and be supremely confident that he'd play.

JVR is still potting 20+ goals and 45+ points yearly. At $5 million AAV I would think he'd return a 2nd rounder easily, even with a flat cap. Jason Zucker just returned Galchenyuk, Calen Addison and a conditional 1st for a comparable.


You should keep in mind that Flames owners have never once retained a contract and probably never will
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26 juill. 2020 à 7 h 51
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Still no interested in Gaudreau. He's great and it would be cool to add scoring but our team is deep upfront already. I'm not interested in trading Farabee, but I get those are the types of players you have to include to get players of this quality back. The Flyers just took a step forward this year and don't need to blow it up for a reset. We are legitimately a RHD and a backup goalie away from true contender... maybe a 3RW depending on Patrick/Frost.
 
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