Maybe he wasn't the sole architect of the Seguin/Reinhart trades, but he still pulled the trigger, you can't just trade a second overall player in sequin and then when it doesn't pan out pin the blame on others in management, or with the Reinhat trade, maybe the scouts were pushing him hard for it, but anybody who has an eye for talent in hockey could seriously pick apart Reinharts game, for him it wasn't just working on this or putting it all together, he just wasn't a first round caliber player, and Chia the person I may remind you who is supposed to be this great talent evaluator, traded some prime juicy picks to get a guys who projects to be a 5-6 d-man. And if he had a reason for trading Hall what was it? He may know it, but we sure as hell don't, so theres no point speculating. Growing up with the Leafs I've had to deal with some horrid management (as you probably have too, Craig Mactavish ...) and I've learned to not put blind faith in management. If they do something stupid call them out on it, theres no point making excuses for them, like the scouts said this, sequin did that and so forth. If you're getting paid like the GMs in the NHL are getting paid you need to be accountable for you're bad moves, no matter the specific circumstance. Thats the end of my little tangent there, but I want to ask you a question. When you found out about the Hall trade what was your reaction.
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Just stating my opinion, and in my opinion ya. You can't make stupid trades like getting rid of sequin and hall, acquiring Reinhart ext. and still be considered a good GM. In regards to Larsson, he'll be a good player for you guys, maybe even a really good player, but he'll never come close to Hall. Hall is worth way more than Larsson, and the fact he couldn't get more for him (for me) cements him in the category of bad gm.
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Just stating my opinion, and in my opinion ya. You can't make stupid trades like getting rid of sequin and hall, acquiring Reinhart ext. and still be considered a good GM. In regards to Larsson, he'll be a good player for you guys, maybe even a really good player, but he'll never come close to Hall. Hall is worth way more than Larsson, and the fact he couldn't get more for him (for me) cements him in the category of bad gm.
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Iglad you think so, but nothing so far in his career has pointed to that happening, but even if I'm wrong, its not because Chia is some genius who saw some great genius in this kid it'd be because of complete luck.
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IMO Larrson is a second pair guy, which is fine, but not for Taylor ******* Hall. Chia is a terrible GM and he has proven time after time, trading a prime first rounder for Reinhart, Trading Seguin for a bucket of pucks, trading the third best 5v5 scorer (points per 60) in the NHL, for a borderline second pair defender.
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As a Leafs fan, Emonton might have had the deepest forward core in the NHL, before they traded Hall for a second rate defender
I think u severely under rated larsson.
I bet you're wrong. With TM as coach and recognizing larssons strengths. He puts up 35-40 points and 10 - 12 goals and is on the power play. Ala Seabrook. Put a hundred bucks on it. His stats all come down to usage led all dmen with dzone starts. You give that guy more ozone starts with his point shot hell collect points.
Completely luck lol. Larsson will be great for oilers. No sense in to trying to convince a know it all. So Bostons cup and 6 years of playoffs was a fluke? OK buddy
I disagree there had to be a reasonwhy hall was chosen to be traded same with Seguin. Reinhart was old regime scouting. Reinhart was in the Oilers back yard for all of his whl career. Edmontons WHOLE scouting staff wanted Reinhart I don't pin this on Chia. Neely also pushed the trade of Seguin, I watched a special on sports net about major trades and that one showed the back room dealings of sequins trade. In the room was the scouts Chia and neely. All Chia did was set multiple deals for Seguin.