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Tavares Trade v2

Créé par: firezfurx
Date de création initiale: avr 20, 2020
Publié: Apr 20 at 2:05 pm
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I love Tavares, he played juniors for my hometown-team and is a great leader. He definitely helps to make Toronto's offense incredible. However, he is a VERY expensive 2C and Courturier is such a good 2-way guy that would fit in well with Mikheyev and Nylander, 2 skilled offensive guys. It would also be an $5 cap dump. I know it would be bad to trade the new captain, but Rielly would be ready to take it over right away, and in 3-4 years Matthews will get it. It would be a hard trade to make but the Leafs really, really need some more cap space.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Myers, Philippe52 500 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya42 500 000 $
Brooks, Adam2800 000 $
Gauthier, Frédérik2800 000 $
Veronneau, Max2800 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1800 000 $
Vatanen, Sami55 000 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Couturier, Sean
  2. Myers, Philippe [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (PHI)
PHI
  1. Tavares, John
  2. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
TOR
  1. 2020 2e round pick (MTL)
  2. 2020 3e round pick (MTL)
  3. 2020 6e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
TOR
  1. 2020 3e round pick (CBJ)
LAK
  1. Veronneau, Max
  2. Bracco, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
PHI
TOR
MTL
MTL
CBJ
TOR
VGK
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
MTL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $78 841 866 $0 $0 $2 658 134 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
PHI
Couturier, Sean
4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
800 000 $
C, AD
UFA
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Vatanen, Sami
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Myers, Philippe
2 500 000 $
DD
RFA
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
800 000 $
C
RFA

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Nylander, W.
Matthews, A.
Marner, M.
Couturier, S.
, .
Avantage numérique 2
Mikheyev, I.
Kerfoot, A.
Kapanen, K.
Spezza, J.
Rielly, M.
Infériorité numérique 1
Couturier, S.
Marner, M.
Muzzin, J.
Vatanen, S.
Infériorité numérique 2
Engvall, P.
Kapanen, K.
Rielly, M.
Holl, J.

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20 avr à 14 h 08
#1
Banni
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Philadelphia laughs in our face
20 avr à 14 h 43
#2
Bandwagon fairweathe
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Coutiere plays at a double his cap hit level, and Tavares plays at a slightly higher level but is paid 3 times as much and is also a few years older. So not sure on the base of your deal is going to go over in philly. Tavares deal is going to be tough with age and caphit, starting to look like he’s worth more to leafs than anybody else imo
20 avr à 14 h 43
#3
Pmwalker
Rejoint: avr 2019
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Zero chance Philly does this.
20 avr à 14 h 44
#4
Rejoint: jun 2016
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No way Tavares waves his No Trade. He wanted to come home and apparently had more money elsewhere.
20 avr à 17 h 15
#5
Best In The World
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Philly decline and laugh
20 avr à 20 h 59
#6
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Quoting: brocklesnar
Philly decline and laugh


Once Philly is done laughing then Montreal takes over. Johnsson is worth about a 4th round pick, period. And I am probably being a little generous.
brocklesnar a aimé ceci.
20 avr à 23 h 15
#7
Démarrer sujet
Dubas is a genius
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This year at the deadline Goodrow was traded for a 1st round pick. Goodrow is on a cheap contract, but is also already 27 and has been a perennial 20 point scorer. I understand the value on that was bad, but the JG Pagaeu trade was more fair. He is 28, and this year he was traded for a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd*. This year he had 40 points in 60 games, which is respectable. However, the last time he played a somewhat full non-injury plagued season he had only 30 pts. His previous best was 44 pts. For ease, I'll say he usually scores 40 pts~ in 82 games. Also note that the value wasn't from his cheap contract since NYI immediately resigned him for 5m AAVx6 yrs.

For comparison, Johnsson is only 25 yrs old with plenty of space to grow and work on his game. This year, he struggled with injuries and bad luck and only scored 21 pts in 42 games, but if it had been 82 he would've scored 40 pts. This is already better then JG Pageau's average over the last few years. However last year Johnsson was on pace for 50, about half of which goals. As a reminder, JG Pageau was on track for 55 pts this year when he was traded in a "steal of a deal" to the NYI for a 1st, 2nd, (and a small chance at a 3rd.)

The reason I had Johnsson at a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th is because JG Pageau is a better goal scorer and 2-way player even though they have very similar numbers, and Johnsson contract is steep for some at 3.4m AAV. In my humble opinion, Johnsson is a far better player on paper, on the books and on the ice then Goodrow, who got a 1st which in my opinion is more valuable then a 2nd, 3rd and 6th. If your team traded away Jaden Schwartz, Patric Hornqvist or Jason Zucker for a 4th (who got more then a 1st rounder this year at the deadline) I'm sure you'd want to fire the GM, but those are guys with similar numbers to Johnsson.
20 avr à 23 h 16
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Dubas is a genius
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Quoting: gmurrayt
Once Philly is done laughing then Montreal takes over. Johnsson is worth about a 4th round pick, period. And I am probably being a little generous.


This year at the deadline Goodrow was traded for a 1st round pick. Goodrow is on a cheap contract, but is also already 27 and has been a perennial 20 point scorer. I understand the value on that was bad, but the JG Pagaeu trade was more fair. He is 28, and this year he was traded for a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd*. This year he had 40 points in 60 games, which is respectable. However, the last time he played a somewhat full non-injury plagued season he had only 30 pts. His previous best was 44 pts. For ease, I'll say he usually scores 40 pts~ in 82 games. Also note that the value wasn't from his cheap contract since NYI immediately resigned him for 5m AAVx6 yrs.

For comparison, Johnsson is only 25 yrs old with plenty of space to grow and work on his game. This year, he struggled with injuries and bad luck and only scored 21 pts in 42 games, but if it had been 82 he would've scored 40 pts. This is already better then JG Pageau's average over the last few years. However last year Johnsson was on pace for 50, about half of which goals. As a reminder, JG Pageau was on track for 55 pts this year when he was traded in a "steal of a deal" to the NYI for a 1st, 2nd, (and a small chance at a 3rd.)

The reason I had Johnsson at a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th is because JG Pageau is a better goal scorer and 2-way player even though they have very similar numbers, and Johnsson contract is steep for some at 3.4m AAV. In my humble opinion, Johnsson is a far better player on paper, on the books and on the ice then Goodrow, who got a 1st which in my opinion is more valuable then a 2nd, 3rd and 6th. If your team traded away Jaden Schwartz, Patric Hornqvist or Jason Zucker for a 4th (who got more then a 1st rounder this year at the deadline) I'm sure you'd want to fire the GM, but those are guys with similar numbers to Johnsson.
 
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