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Matthews and Marner Gone Winning the Cup

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 27 févr. 2020
Publié: 27 févr. 2020
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28 févr. 2020 à 9 h 26
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Quoting: mondo
Speaking from an analytical perspective, one has 44 goals and other does not.


That is not analytical, and Svech has a higher xGF
28 févr. 2020 à 9 h 30
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One is a projected Hall of Famer the other is not, one will likely win multiple Rocket Richard trophies in his career one will not, one will likely compete every year for the Art Ross and Ted Lindsay awards the other will be lucky to have a couple years in that conversation.

Svech will be a star in this league, probably gets over 70 points a season, but Mathews has been and will continue to be a superstar that is over a ppg in his entire career.

Please dont make me compliment Matthew's anymore, I'm a Habs fan and it's making me sick this early in the morning.

Believe me when I say this left a bitter taste in my mouth, I'm from the Barrie area and watched Svech play in the OHL a lot and am a huge fan of his but I'm also obvious who is the better and more valuable player.


Svech has no ceiling. You say he'll be lucky to compete for trophies, when he's 19 and is having a comparable season at his age to Patrick Kane and Patrik Laine. Svech can also literally score from behind the goal. The ONLY thing that makes Matthews even remotely considerable for a trade here is the fact he's a centre. I would not do Matthews for Svech because
A) Matthews is great when he's healthy. WHEN HE'S HEALTHY, he's already got injury issues
B) Svechnikov is more defensively responsible than Matthews, I can use analytics, base stats or even the eye test to back this up
C) The gap between the two isn't worth the price it's gonna cost to upgrade from Svech to Matthews.

I'm not saying Matthews isn't a Fantastic player, not in the slightest. I'd just rather take my chances with Andrei Svechnikov. Maybe that's just me, but that's how I feel
28 févr. 2020 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: Caniac2000
That is not analytical, and Svech has a higher xGF


that's cool matthews has a higher actual goals for
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 17
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Quoting: mondo
that's cool matthews has a higher actual goals for


That's cool. All the stats suggest Svech will be better tho
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 20
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That's cool. All the stats suggest Svech will be better tho


Wouldn't place bets on flawed predictive stats.
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 22
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Wouldn't place bets on flawed predictive stats.


What flaws? Are you calling them flawed because you don't understand them, or flawed because they prove you wrong?
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Caniac2000
What flaws? Are you calling them flawed because you don't understand them, or flawed because they prove you wrong?


You're right. I'm a big dumb-dumb because I'm skeptical of complete reliance on a predictive stat. Svechnikov is going to score 120 goals next season because a spreadsheet told me he would.
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Caniac2000
What flaws? Are you calling them flawed because you don't understand them, or flawed because they prove you wrong?


CF submitted my post twice so I'll use this second one to say this is the reason why a lot of hockey fans don't trust analytics; it's because the people who are deep into them are holier-than-thou assholes.
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 38
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Quoting: mondo
You're right. I'm a big dumb-dumb because I'm skeptical of complete reliance on a predictive stat. Svechnikov is going to score 120 goals next season because a spreadsheet told me he would.


You are big dumb-dumb for trying to say stats are flawed when you A) Haven't looked at them and B) Have no idea what you're on about.
28 févr. 2020 à 10 h 42
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You are big dumb-dumb for trying to say stats are flawed when you A) Haven't looked at them and B) Have no idea what you're on about.


hey bud can you guess which players are which

vJqH2Ry
28 févr. 2020 à 11 h 37
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hey bud can you guess which players are which

vJqH2Ry


Using % instead of isolated RAPM? Wow, you REALLY have no idea what you're on about 😂
28 févr. 2020 à 11 h 39
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Using % instead of isolated RAPM? Wow, you REALLY have no idea what you're on about 😂


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28 févr. 2020 à 11 h 40
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Regional Anesthesia & Pain Medicine


.... Just no....
28 févr. 2020 à 11 h 56
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.... Just no....


sorry but i prefer trustworthy medical tools and practices over stuff behind a paywall. please do not be anti-science in my good christian thread, thank you.
28 févr. 2020 à 12 h 40
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sorry but i prefer trustworthy medical tools and practices over stuff behind a paywall. please do not be anti-science in my good christian thread, thank you.


Jesus Christ....
28 févr. 2020 à 12 h 41
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Jesus Christ....


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28 févr. 2020 à 12 h 45
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Aho > Matthews
 
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